ON 20040201@10:30:03 PM at page: http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist/index.htm#38018.9371064815 [kwojcicki-yahoo-] Questions:
[PIC:] Problems with PIC18F452 programming..

When using PICALLW (tried software 1.0c,1.4,1.5a)
The programmer reads program memory, data memory, configuration bits: OK. Erasing works fine as well.
When writing to the pic: program memory: remains unchanged, configuration bits: remain unchanged, data memory: writes OK.

What could be wrong?
1. PICALL software problem
2. PIC18F452 malfunction

So I borrowed:
DIY K149-B v030403
After selecting 18F452 from supported devices, When using "read"/"write"/"read chip info"/etc the software (diypack7.zip) displays:
"The programmer does not recognise the [18F452]"
"Continue anyway?"

after clicking yes, the reading/writing works fine for all program memory, data memory and configuration bits.

The read chip info gives:
"[18F452] Version 6"
"Chip ID = 0420"

Any ideas?

Thank you
ON 20040201@10:47:51 PM at page: http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist/index.htm#38018.9371064815 James Newton[38018.9371064815] removed post 38018.9371064815 with comment: 'This is not the place to post questions like this.' |Delete ' asks:

[PIC:] Problems with PIC18F452 programming..

When using PICALLW (tried software 1.0c,1.4,1.5a)
The programmer reads program memory, data memory, configuration bits: OK. Erasing works fine as well.
When writing to the pic: program memory: remains unchanged, configuration bits: remain unchanged, data memory: writes OK.

What could be wrong?
1. PICALL software problem
2. PIC18F452 malfunction

So I borrowed:
DIY K149-B v030403
After selecting 18F452 from supported devices, When using "read"/"write"/"read chip info"/etc the software (diypack7.zip) displays:
"The programmer does not recognise the [18F452]"
"Continue anyway?"

after clicking yes, the reading/writing works fine for all program memory, data memory and configuration bits.

The read chip info gives:
"[18F452] Version 6"
"Chip ID = 0420"

Any ideas?

Thank you
' ON 20040205@12:29:48 AM at page: http://www.piclist.compiclist/questions.htm#38021.9949884259 James Newton[38021.9949884259] published post 38021.9949884259 vkcvkc@mail.com asks:
I am using a 16F877A and i am trying to store a string of bits up to 64 bits long. Can the pic support a variable of length 64 bits? Thanks for your help!
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Program #10 - LCD display of Temperature
;-------------------------------------------------------------------------;
; THERM.ASM Shows Temperature from Thermistor on LCD ;
;-------------------------------------------------------------------------;


LIST P=16F84 ; 16F84 Runs at 4 MHz
INCLUDE "p16f84.inc"
__CONFIG _PWRTE_ON & _LP_OSC & _WDT_OFF ; uses 32.768 kHz crystal
ERRORLEVEL -224 ; supress annoying message because of tris
ERRORLEVEL -302 ; supress message because of page change

; Define Information
#DEFINE RS PORTA, 0 ; RA0 is RS line of LCD
#DEFINE E PORTA, 1 ; RA1 is E line of LCD
; RB0-RB3 are D4-D7 of LCD
; Macro

EStrobe MACRO ; Strobe the "E" Bit
bsf E
bcf E
ENDM

CBLOCK 0CH
Temp ; a temporary variable
count ; counter
bin ; binary number to be converted to BCD
hundreds ; BCD hundreds result
tens_and_ones ; BCD tens and ones result
savetmr0 ; used to save value of tmr0
dispvalue ; used to hold temperature to be displayed
tableindex ; points to table value to display
ENDC

ORG 0 ; start at location 0

goto main ; jump over to main routine

;-------------------------------------------------------------------------;
; Data for message to be output ;
;-------------------------------------------------------------------------;
shomsg: ; Message to Output
addwf PCL, f ; Output the Characters
m0 dt "TMR0 Value:", 0
m1 dt "Temperature", 0

;-------------------------------------------------------------------------;
; Ratios of Prescaler ;
;-------------------------------------------------------------------------;
preratio:
addwf PCL, f ; select offset using W
dt D'2',D'4',D'8',D'16',D'32',D'64',D'128'

;-------------------------------------------------------------------------;
; Initialize the ports ;
;-------------------------------------------------------------------------;
Init:
clrf PORTA
clrf PORTB

movlw B'00010000' ; RA4 input, others outputs
tris PORTA
movlw B'00110000' ; RB4, RB5 input, others outputs
tris PORTB
movlw B'00100011' ; pull-ups enabled
; prescaler assigned to RA4
; prescaler set to 1:16
option
return

;-------------------------------------------------------------------------;
; Initialize the LCD ;
;-------------------------------------------------------------------------;
initlcd:
movlw D'40'
call nmsec ; Wait 40 msecs before Reset
bcf RS ; send an 8 bit instruction
movlw 0x03 ; Reset Command
call NybbleOut ; Send the Nybble
call Dlay5 ; Wait 5 msecs before Sending Again
EStrobe
nop
nop ; Wait 244 usecs before Sending the Second Time
EStrobe
nop
nop ; Wait 244 usecs before Sending the Third Time
bcf RS ; send an 8 bit instruction
movlw 0x02 ; Set 4 Bit Mode
call NybbleOut
nop
nop
movlw 0x028 ; 4 bit, 2 Line, 5x7 font
call SendINS
movlw 0x010 ; display shift off
call SendINS
movlw 0x001 ; Clear the Display RAM
call SendINS
call Dlay5 ; Note, Can take up to 4.1 msecs
movlw 0x006 ; increment cursor
call SendINS
movlw 0x00C ; display on cursor off
call SendINS
return

;-------------------------------------------------------------------------;
; Send the character in W out to the LCD ;
;-------------------------------------------------------------------------;
SendASCII
addlw '0' ; Send nbr as ASCII character
SendCHAR ; Send the Character to the LCD
movwf Temp ; Save the Temporary Value
swapf Temp, w ; Send the High Nybble
bsf RS ; RS = 1
call NybbleOut
movf Temp, w ; Send the Low Nybble
bsf RS
call NybbleOut
return

;-------------------------------------------------------------------------;
; Send an instruction in W out to the LCD ;
;-------------------------------------------------------------------------;
SendINS ; Send the Instruction to the LCD
movwf Temp ; Save the Temporary Value
swapf Temp, w ; Send the High Nybble
bcf RS ; RS = 0
call NybbleOut
movf Temp, w ; Send the Low Nybble
bcf RS
call NybbleOut
return

;-------------------------------------------------------------------------;
; Send the nibble in W out to the LCD ;
;-------------------------------------------------------------------------;
NybbleOut ; Send a Nybble to the LCD
movwf PORTB
EStrobe ; Strobe out the LCD Data
nop
nop
return

;-------------------------------------------------------------------------;
; Output the message on the LCD ;
;-------------------------------------------------------------------------;
OutMessage:
movwf FSR ; Point at first letter
OutLoop:
movf FSR, w ; Get pointer into W
incf FSR, f ; Set up for next letter
call shomsg ; Get character to output
iorlw 0 ; At the End of the Message?
btfsc STATUS, Z ; Skip if not at end
return ; Yes - Equal to Zero
call SendCHAR ; Output the ASCII Character
goto OutLoop ; Get the next character

;-------------------------------------------------------------------------;
; Change binary nbr in bin to BCD ;
;-------------------------------------------------------------------------;
binary_to_bcd ; by Scott Dattalo
clrf hundreds
swapf bin, W
addwf bin, W
andlw B'00001111'
skpndc
addlw 0x16
skpndc
addlw 0x06
addlw 0x06
skpdc
addlw -0x06
btfsc bin,4
addlw 0x16 - 1 + 0x6
skpdc
addlw -0x06
btfsc bin,5
addlw 0x30
btfsc bin, 6
addlw 0x60
btfsc bin,7
addlw 0x20
addlw 0x60
rlf hundreds, f
btfss hundreds, 0
addlw -0x60
movwf tens_and_ones
btfsc bin,7
incf hundreds, f
return

;-----------------------------------------------------------------------;
; Delay routine ;
;-----------------------------------------------------------------------;
msec250 movlw 0 ; 250 msec delay (adjusted to try and
; allow for 2.5% low loop time)
goto $+2
Dlay5 movlw 5 ; delay for 5 milliseconds
nmsec: ; delay for # msec in W on entry
nop ; each nop is 0.122 milliseconds
nop
nop ; each total loop is 8 X 0.122 = 0.976 msec
nop
addlw H'FF' ; same as subtracting 1 from W
btfss STATUS, Z ; skip if result is zero
goto nmsec ; this is 2 X 0.122 msec
return ; back to calling point

;-------------------------------------------------------------------------;
; Display binary value in W in decimal ; ;
;-------------------------------------------------------------------------;
DispDec
movwf bin
call binary_to_bcd
movf hundreds, W
call SendASCII
swapf tens_and_ones, W
andlw H'F'
call SendASCII
movf tens_and_ones, W
andlw H'F'
call SendASCII
return


;-------------------------------------------------------------------------;
; The Main routine ;
;-------------------------------------------------------------------------;
main:
call Init ; initialize ports, set up timer
call initlcd ; initialize the LCD
movlw H'80' ; position at 1st line column 0
call SendINS
movlw m0 -2 ; send 'TMR0 Value:' message
call OutMessage
movlw H'C0'
call SendINS ; position at 2nd line column 0
movlw m1 -2 ; send 'Temperature:' message
call OutMessage
sholoop:
movlw H'8C' ; position at 1st line column 12
call SendINS
bcf INTCON, T0IF ; clear timer zero interrupt flag
clrf TMR0 ; zero TMR0
call msec250 ; wait a total of one second
call msec250
call msec250
call msec250
movf TMR0, W ; retrieve timer zero
movwf savetmr0 ; save the value
btfsc INTCON, T0IF ; check if timer overflowed
goto overload ; yes, display 'OVR'
call DispDec ; display TMR0 value
movlw H'CC' ; position at 2nd line column 12
call SendINS
movlw 2 ; set up PCLATH to page 2
movwf PCLATH
movlw D'64' ; 1st table value is for tmr0 = 64
subwf savetmr0, W ; subtract 64 from tmr0 value
movwf tableindex
call temptable1 ; get 1st two digits of temperature
movwf dispvalue ; save it in display value
swapf dispvalue, W ; get hi nibble in W
andlw H'0F' ; lowest 4 bits
call SendASCII ; display it
movf dispvalue, W ; get lo nibble in W
andlw H'0F' ; lowest 4 bits
call SendASCII ; display it
movlw '.' ; send decimal point
call SendCHAR
movlw 3 ; set up for second table, (page 3)
movwf PCLATH
movf tableindex, W
call temptable2 ; get decimal point
call SendASCII ; display it
goto sholoop ; repeat forever
overload
movlw 'O' ; output 'OVER'
call SendCHAR
movlw 'V'
call SendCHAR
movlw 'E'
call SendCHAR
movlw 'R'
call SendCHAR
movlw ' '
call SendCHAR
goto sholoop ; and continue

org H'200'
temptable1: ; get temperature to display
addwf PCL, f
dt 33,34,34,35,35,36,36,37,37,38,38,39,39,40,40,40,41,41,42,42,43
dt 43,44,44,45,45,46,46,46,47,47,48,48,49,49,50,50,50,51,51,52,52
dt 53,53,53,54,54,55,55,56,56,56,57,57,58,58,58,59,59,60,60,60,61
dt 61,62,62,62,63,63,64,64,64,65,65,66,66,66,67,67,67,68,68,69,69
dt 69,70,70,70,71,71,72,72,72,73,73,73,74,74,74,75,75,75,76,76,77
dt 77,77,78,78,78,79,79,79,80,80,80,81,81,81,81,82,82,82,83,83,83
dt 84,84,84,85,85,85,86,86,86,86,87,87,87,88,88,88,89,89,89,89,90
dt 90,90,91,91,91,91,92,92,92,92,93,93,93,94,94,94,94,95,95,95,95
dt 96,96,96,96,97,97,97,97,98,98,98,98,99,99,99,99,99,00,00,00,00
dt 00,01,01,01
org H'300'
temptable2:
addwf PCL, f
dt 7,2,7,2,7,2,6,1,6,1,5,0,5,0,4,9,4,8,3,8,2,7,1,6,1,5,0,4
dt 9,3,8,2,6,1,5,0,4,8,3,7,2,6,0,4,9,3,7,1,6,0,4,8,2,7,1,5
dt 9,3,7,1,5,9,3,7,1,5,9,3,7,1,5,9,3,7,0,4,8,2,6,9,3,7,1,4
dt 8,2,6,9,3,7,0,4,4,7,1,5,8,2,5,9,2,6,9,3,6,0,3,6,0,3,7,0
dt 3,7,0,3,6,0,3,6,9,3,6,9,2,5,8,2,5,8,1,4,7,0,3,6,9,2,5,8
dt 1,4,7,0,3,5,8,1,4,7,0,2,5,8,1,3,6,9,2,4,7,0,2,5,7,0,3,5
dt 8,0,3,5,8,0,3,5,8,0,3,5,7,0,2,4,7,9,1,4,6,8,0,3,5

end
A Thermometer
We can substitute a thermistor for the 10K pot in program #9 and we have a thermometer. The major problem is calibration of the thermistor. We must make up a table of temperature values for each TMR0 reading we get. You can see the ones I came up with at the end of the program. Just by luck it covered the temperature range I was interested in without changing the prescalar ratio, (it stays at 1:16). The temperatures are degrees Fahrenheit and the low numbers after 99 are 100 and up.
The Thermistor
The thermistor has a room temperature value of about 9K. Peter Anderson, ( http://www.phanderson.com), sells them for $0.65. He also sells the National LM35DZ thermometer for about $1.25 that you can use to calibrate the thermistor. You will need something like digital multimeter to read LM35 at 10 mV/ deg F, (just add a battery). I placed the thermistor and thermometer together in a stirred bath of ice water which I let heated up. I took tmr0 readings and temperature about every degree or so. Putting the values in Excel allowed me to fit a quadratic and create a table of temperature vs TMR0 reading. The values occur in two tables with the integer 2 digits in one and the single fractional digit in the other.
Referencing the table
You will notice that I placed the tables at H'200' and H'300'which are the 3rd and 4th pages of '84 program memory. This brings up a problem you may encounter with the program counter. 'Goto' and 'call' can modify the program counter and reach any place in the 16F84's program space. If you modify PCL, ( Program Counter Low byte ), you can make a change of only 256 locations, the size of one page. The high byte of the program counter, the page bits, are not directly available. Any instruction, other than goto or call or return, that modifies PCL also causes the page bits of the program counter to be loaded from a register called PCLATH.
PCLATH seems to be initialized to zero. As long as our table stays in page 0 everything is O.K. If we place our table on another page, we have to preload PCLATH with the page every time we access the table. This is done in the main loop, 'sholoop' where 2 is loaded in to PCLATH before temptable is called. Things get more complicated when a table crosses a page boundary. We simplify things by making sure our table stays within one page.

Your turn
Accuracy
The thermometer is probably not very accurate. The LM35DZ I used could have been off although it did read 31.9 deg F in the ice bath. The quadratic deviates from the real curve at the upper and lower end. It gives a ice point value 2 degrees high, (TMR0 value at ice point was 65). Higher order polynominals seemed to wiggle around too much. You can probably come up with a better fit and something to check the LM35.
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Questions:

kenash@charter.net asks:
Could this be used for high temps, say 2000-2500 degrees F? What types of areas would I need to look into? Could I substitute a thermocouple for a thermistor? Calibrate it with a Dickson B2500 thermometor?




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STEP 4: Use Netscape or Internet Explorer and post this article as a new message by highlighting the text of this letter and selecting paste from the edit menu. Fill in the subject, this will be the header that everyone sees as they scroll through the list of postings in a particular group, click the “post” message button. You’re done with your first one! NOTE: Please don’t SPAM or send unsolicited emails. It’s completely illegal. Send emails to all the people you know or any ways that allow you to, instead of SPAMMING. (Just a reminder)
CONGRATULATIONS…. THAT’S IT!!! All you have to do is just to different newsgroups and post away, after you get the hang of it, it will take about a minute for each newsgroup! ** REMEMBER, THE MORE NEWSGROUPS YOU POST IN, THE MORE MONEY YOU WILL MAKE!! BUT YOU HAVE TO POST A MINIMUM OF 220** That’s it! You will begin receiving money from around the world within days!!! NO JOKE!!! You may eventually rent a P.O. Box due to large amounts of mail you will receive. If you wish to stay anonymous, you can invent a name to use, as long as the postman will deliver it. ** JUST MAKE SURE ALL THE ADDRESSES ARE CORRECT. **
* Now the WHY part; Out of 200 postings, say I receive only 5 replies (a very low example). So then I made $5.00 with my name at #6 on the letter. Now each of the 5 persons who just sent me $1.00 make the MINIMUN 200 postings, each with my name at #5 and only 5 persons respond to each of the original five, this is another $25.00 for me, now those 25 each make 200 MINIMUM posts with my name at #4 and only 5 replies each, I will bring in an additional $125.00! Now those, 125 persons turn around and post the MINIMUM 200 with my name at #3 and only receive 5 replies each, I will make an additional $626.00! OK, now here is the fun part, each of those 625 persons post a MINIMUM 200 letters with my name at #2, and they each only receive 5 replies, that just made me $3125.00!!! Those 3,125 persons will all deliver this message to 200 newsgroups with my name at #1 and if STILL only 5 persons per 200 newsgroups react I will receive $15,625.00! With an original investment of only $6.00! AMAZING!!! When your name is no longer on the list, putting your name at number 6 again. And start posting again. The thing to remember is: do you realize that thousands of people all over the world are joining the Internet and reading these articles everyday? JUST LIKE YOU are now!! So, can you afford $6.00 and see if it really works?? I think so…People have said, “what if the plan is played out and no one sends you the money.” So what! What are the chances of that happening when there are tons of new honest users and new honest people who are joining the Internet and newsgroups everyday and are willing to give it a try? Estimates are at 20,000 to 50,000 new users everyday, with thousands of those joining the actual Internet!!! REMEMBER, PLAY FAIRLY AND HONESTLY AND THIS WILL WORK FOR YOU!!!
  • ' ON 20040219@10:54:11 PM at page: http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist/index.htm#38036.93875 James Newton[JMN-EFP-786] removed post 38036.93875 |Delete 'MIKEFB785@AOL.COM asks:
    /techref/piclist/EASY MONEY MAKING Dear Internet User:
    Good Day! This article I’ve written is all about the fact that I’ve earned an ASTOUNDING amount of money in less than a month and I’ve decided to share the secret with you…(yah you the one reading this message) behind making big bucks in the Mail Order Business.
    So all money seekers…Read this carefully!
    Hi. I’m 20 years old and I make more money than my parents, and so can you! Turn $6.00 into $60,000 or more….read this to find out how!!! READING THIS COULD CHANGE YOUR LIFE!!! IT SURE CHANGED MINE!
    I found this on a bulletin board like this one and decided to try it because I was desperate for money. A little while back I was browsing through several newsgroups, just like you are now, and came across an article, similar to this, that said you could make thousands of dollars within weeks, with only an additional investment of $6.00! So I thought, “Yah right! This must be a scam,” but like most of us, I was curious so I kept reading. It said that: you need to send $1.00 to each of the six names and address stated in this article. You then place your own name and address in the bottom of the list at #6, and post the article in at least 200 newsgroups. (There are millions) No catch, that was it. So after thinking it over and talking to a few people first, I thought about trying it! I figured: “What have I got to loose except 6 stamps, and $6.00, right?” Then I invested the measly $6.00. WELL, GUESS WHAT!!… Within 7 days, I started getting money in them mail! I was SHOCKED!!! I figured it would end soon, but the money just kept on coming in. In my first week, I made about $25.00. By the end of the second week I had made a total of over $1,000.00! In the third week I had over $10,000.00 and it’s still growing! This is now my fourth week and I have made just over 42,000.00, and it’s still coming in very rapidly! It’s certainly worth $6.00, and 6 stamps!
    Let me tell you how this works, and most importantly, why it works…. Also, make sure you print a copy of this article NOW, so you can get the information off of it as you need it. I promise you that if you follow the directions exactly, that you will start making more money than you thought possible by doing something so easy!
    SUGGESTION: READ THIS ENTIRE MESSAGE CAREFULLY! (Print it out or download it.) Follow the simple directions and watch the money come in! It’s easy. It’s legal. And, your investment is only $6.00 (plus postage).
    IMPORTANT: This is not a rip-off; it is not indecent; it is not illegal; and it is virtually no risk-it really works!!!! If all the following instructions are adhered to, you will receive extraordinary dividends!
    (PLEASE NOTE: Please follow these directions EXACTLY, and $50,000.00 or more can be yours in 20-60 days. This program remains successful because of the honesty and integrity of the participants. Please continue its success by carefully adhering to the instructions. You will now become part of the Mail Order business. In this business your product your product is not sold and tangible, it’s a service. You are in the business of developing Mailing Lists. Many large corporations are happy to pay big bucks for quality lists. However the money made from the mailing lists is secondary to the income which is made from people like you and me asking to be included in that.)
    *HERE ARE 4 EASY STEPS TO GET STARTED*
    STEP 1: Get six separate pieces of paper and write the following on each piece of paper, “PLEASE PUT ME ON YOUR MAILING LIST.” (And your address) Now get 6 US $1.00 bills and place ONE inside EACH of the 6 pieces of paper so the bill will not be seen through the envelope (Please make sure that the bill wouldn’t be noticed in the envelope to prevent thievery (a dark piece of paper is best!) Use US $ DOLLAR, so it would be more acceptable.
    STEP 2: Next, place one paper (with the bill inside) in each of the six envelopes and seal them properly. You should now have six sealed envelopes, each with a piece of paper stating the phrase: “PLEASE PUT ME ON YOUR MAILING LIST,” your name and address, and a $1.00 bill.
    What you are doing is creating a service. THIS IS ABSOLUTELY LEGAL!!! You are requesting for a legitimate service and you are paying for it! Like most of us, I was a little skeptical and a little worried about the legal aspects of it all. So I checked it out with the U.S. Post office (1-800-725-2161) and they confirmed that it is indeed legal!
    MAIL THE 6 ENVELOPES TO THE FOLLOWING ADDRESSES BELOW:
    #1.) Victor Bell 5820 N Kenmore Chicago, Il 60660 Apt. 201
    #2.) Ayana Webster 559 16th Street Oakland, CA 94608
    #3.) Natasha Sheridan P.O. Box 399 Menahga, MN 56464
    #4.) A.N Flegel 18501 68th ST. E Bonney Lake, WA 98390
    #5.) Annette Brooks, 510 21st Street Oakland, CA 94612 #606
    #6.) Michael Tuccori 1010 Carlow Dr. Des Plaines, Il 60016
    STEP 3: Now take the #1 name off the list that you see above, move the other names up (6 becomes 5, 5 becomes 4, ect…) and add YOUR Name as number 6 on the list.
    STEP 4: copy this article. Change anything you need to, but try to keep this article as close to the original as possible. Now, post your amended article to at least 220 newsgroups. (I think there are close to 2.4 million groups) All you need is 220, but remember, the more you post, the more money you make!!! (You can make thousands of dollars more if you add just 40 more newsgroups to the 220) This is perfectly legal! If you have any doubts, refer to Title 18, Section 1302 and 1341, US Postal and Lottery Laws or Title 18, Section 3005 in the US code, also in the code of Federal regulations, volume 16, sections 255 and 436, which states; “a product or service must be exchanged for money received.” The simple note in the letter, “PLEASE PUT ME ON YOUR MAILING LIST,” Makes it legal because you are paying for exchange of a service, (adding the purchasers name to his mailing list) for a $1.00 fee.
    KEEP A COPY OF THESE STEPS FOR YOURSELF, and whenever you need the money, you can use it again and again! PLEASE REMEMBER that this program remains successful because of the honesty and integrity of the participants and by their carefully adhering to the directions. Look at it this way: If you are of integrity, the program will continue, and the money that so many others have received will come your way.
    NOTE: You may want to retain every name and address sent to you, either on a computer or hard copy, and keep the notes people send you. This VERIFIES that you are truly providing a service. (Also it might be a good idea to wrap the $1.00 bill in dark paper to reduce the risk of mail theft.) So, as each post is downloaded and the directions carefully followed, six members will be reimbursed for their participation as a List Developer with one dollar each. Your name will move up the list geometrically so that when your name reaches the #1 position you will be receiving thousands of dollars in CASH!!! What an opportunity for only $6.00 ($1.00 for each of the first six people listed above) Send it now, add your name to the list and you’re in business!
    *DIRECTIONS FOR HOW TO POST TO NEWSGROUPS*
    STEP 1: You do not need to re-type this entire letter to do your own posting. Simply put your mouse curser at the beginning of this letter, click and drag your curser to the bottom of this document, right click and select ‘copy’ from the edit menu. This will copy the entire letter into the computers memory.
    STEP 2: Open a blank ‘notepad’ file and place your mouse curser at the top of the page. Right click and click the ‘edit’ menu, select ‘paste.’ This will paste a copy of the letter into notepad so that you can add your name and postal address to the list.
    STEP 3: Save your new notepad file. If you want to do your postings in different settings, you’ll always have this file to go back to.
    STEP 4: Use Netscape or Internet Explorer and post this article as a new message by highlighting the text of this letter and selecting paste from the edit menu. Fill in the subject, this will be the header that everyone sees as they scroll through the list of postings in a particular group, click the “post” message button. You’re done with your first one! NOTE: Please don’t SPAM or send unsolicited emails. It’s completely illegal. Send emails to all the people you know or any ways that allow you to, instead of SPAMMING. (Just a reminder)
    CONGRATULATIONS…. THAT’S IT!!! All you have to do is just to different newsgroups and post away, after you get the hang of it, it will take about a minute for each newsgroup! ** REMEMBER, THE MORE NEWSGROUPS YOU POST IN, THE MORE MONEY YOU WILL MAKE!! BUT YOU HAVE TO POST A MINIMUM OF 220** That’s it! You will begin receiving money from around the world within days!!! NO JOKE!!! You may eventually rent a P.O. Box due to large amounts of mail you will receive. If you wish to stay anonymous, you can invent a name to use, as long as the postman will deliver it. ** JUST MAKE SURE ALL THE ADDRESSES ARE CORRECT. **
    * Now the WHY part; Out of 200 postings, say I receive only 5 replies (a very low example). So then I made $5.00 with my name at #6 on the letter. Now each of the 5 persons who just sent me $1.00 make the MINIMUN 200 postings, each with my name at #5 and only 5 persons respond to each of the original five, this is another $25.00 for me, now those 25 each make 200 MINIMUM posts with my name at #4 and only 5 replies each, I will bring in an additional $125.00! Now those, 125 persons turn around and post the MINIMUM 200 with my name at #3 and only receive 5 replies each, I will make an additional $626.00! OK, now here is the fun part, each of those 625 persons post a MINIMUM 200 letters with my name at #2, and they each only receive 5 replies, that just made me $3125.00!!! Those 3,125 persons will all deliver this message to 200 newsgroups with my name at #1 and if STILL only 5 persons per 200 newsgroups react I will receive $15,625.00! With an original investment of only $6.00! AMAZING!!! When your name is no longer on the list, putting your name at number 6 again. And start posting again. The thing to remember is: do you realize that thousands of people all over the world are joining the Internet and reading these articles everyday? JUST LIKE YOU are now!! So, can you afford $6.00 and see if it really works?? I think so…People have said, “what if the plan is played out and no one sends you the money.” So what! What are the chances of that happening when there are tons of new honest users and new honest people who are joining the Internet and newsgroups everyday and are willing to give it a try? Estimates are at 20,000 to 50,000 new users everyday, with thousands of those joining the actual Internet!!! REMEMBER, PLAY FAIRLY AND HONESTLY AND THIS WILL WORK FOR YOU!!!
  • ' ON 20040219@10:54:33 PM at page: http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist/index.htm#38036.9382986111 James Newton[JMN-EFP-786] removed post 38036.9382986111 |Delete 'MIKEFB785@AOL.COM asks:
    /techref/piclist/EASY MONEY MAKING Dear Internet User:
    Good Day! This article I’ve written is all about the fact that I’ve earned an ASTOUNDING amount of money in less than a month and I’ve decided to share the secret with you…(yah you the one reading this message) behind making big bucks in the Mail Order Business.
    So all money seekers…Read this carefully!
    Hi. I’m 20 years old and I make more money than my parents, and so can you! Turn $6.00 into $60,000 or more….read this to find out how!!! READING THIS COULD CHANGE YOUR LIFE!!! IT SURE CHANGED MINE!
    I found this on a bulletin board like this one and decided to try it because I was desperate for money. A little while back I was browsing through several newsgroups, just like you are now, and came across an article, similar to this, that said you could make thousands of dollars within weeks, with only an additional investment of $6.00! So I thought, “Yah right! This must be a scam,” but like most of us, I was curious so I kept reading. It said that: you need to send $1.00 to each of the six names and address stated in this article. You then place your own name and address in the bottom of the list at #6, and post the article in at least 200 newsgroups. (There are millions) No catch, that was it. So after thinking it over and talking to a few people first, I thought about trying it! I figured: “What have I got to loose except 6 stamps, and $6.00, right?” Then I invested the measly $6.00. WELL, GUESS WHAT!!… Within 7 days, I started getting money in them mail! I was SHOCKED!!! I figured it would end soon, but the money just kept on coming in. In my first week, I made about $25.00. By the end of the second week I had made a total of over $1,000.00! In the third week I had over $10,000.00 and it’s still growing! This is now my fourth week and I have made just over 42,000.00, and it’s still coming in very rapidly! It’s certainly worth $6.00, and 6 stamps!
    Let me tell you how this works, and most importantly, why it works…. Also, make sure you print a copy of this article NOW, so you can get the information off of it as you need it. I promise you that if you follow the directions exactly, that you will start making more money than you thought possible by doing something so easy!
    SUGGESTION: READ THIS ENTIRE MESSAGE CAREFULLY! (Print it out or download it.) Follow the simple directions and watch the money come in! It’s easy. It’s legal. And, your investment is only $6.00 (plus postage).
    IMPORTANT: This is not a rip-off; it is not indecent; it is not illegal; and it is virtually no risk-it really works!!!! If all the following instructions are adhered to, you will receive extraordinary dividends!
    (PLEASE NOTE: Please follow these directions EXACTLY, and $50,000.00 or more can be yours in 20-60 days. This program remains successful because of the honesty and integrity of the participants. Please continue its success by carefully adhering to the instructions. You will now become part of the Mail Order business. In this business your product your product is not sold and tangible, it’s a service. You are in the business of developing Mailing Lists. Many large corporations are happy to pay big bucks for quality lists. However the money made from the mailing lists is secondary to the income which is made from people like you and me asking to be included in that.)
    *HERE ARE 4 EASY STEPS TO GET STARTED*
    STEP 1: Get six separate pieces of paper and write the following on each piece of paper, “PLEASE PUT ME ON YOUR MAILING LIST.” (And your address) Now get 6 US $1.00 bills and place ONE inside EACH of the 6 pieces of paper so the bill will not be seen through the envelope (Please make sure that the bill wouldn’t be noticed in the envelope to prevent thievery (a dark piece of paper is best!) Use US $ DOLLAR, so it would be more acceptable.
    STEP 2: Next, place one paper (with the bill inside) in each of the six envelopes and seal them properly. You should now have six sealed envelopes, each with a piece of paper stating the phrase: “PLEASE PUT ME ON YOUR MAILING LIST,” your name and address, and a $1.00 bill.
    What you are doing is creating a service. THIS IS ABSOLUTELY LEGAL!!! You are requesting for a legitimate service and you are paying for it! Like most of us, I was a little skeptical and a little worried about the legal aspects of it all. So I checked it out with the U.S. Post office (1-800-725-2161) and they confirmed that it is indeed legal!
    MAIL THE 6 ENVELOPES TO THE FOLLOWING ADDRESSES BELOW:
    #1.) Victor Bell 5820 N Kenmore Chicago, Il 60660 Apt. 201
    #2.) Ayana Webster 559 16th Street Oakland, CA 94608
    #3.) Natasha Sheridan P.O. Box 399 Menahga, MN 56464
    #4.) A.N Flegel 18501 68th ST. E Bonney Lake, WA 98390
    #5.) Annette Brooks, 510 21st Street Oakland, CA 94612 #606
    #6.) Michael Tuccori 1010 Carlow Dr. Des Plaines, Il 60016
    STEP 3: Now take the #1 name off the list that you see above, move the other names up (6 becomes 5, 5 becomes 4, ect…) and add YOUR Name as number 6 on the list.
    STEP 4: copy this article. Change anything you need to, but try to keep this article as close to the original as possible. Now, post your amended article to at least 220 newsgroups. (I think there are close to 2.4 million groups) All you need is 220, but remember, the more you post, the more money you make!!! (You can make thousands of dollars more if you add just 40 more newsgroups to the 220) This is perfectly legal! If you have any doubts, refer to Title 18, Section 1302 and 1341, US Postal and Lottery Laws or Title 18, Section 3005 in the US code, also in the code of Federal regulations, volume 16, sections 255 and 436, which states; “a product or service must be exchanged for money received.” The simple note in the letter, “PLEASE PUT ME ON YOUR MAILING LIST,” Makes it legal because you are paying for exchange of a service, (adding the purchasers name to his mailing list) for a $1.00 fee.
    KEEP A COPY OF THESE STEPS FOR YOURSELF, and whenever you need the money, you can use it again and again! PLEASE REMEMBER that this program remains successful because of the honesty and integrity of the participants and by their carefully adhering to the directions. Look at it this way: If you are of integrity, the program will continue, and the money that so many others have received will come your way.
    NOTE: You may want to retain every name and address sent to you, either on a computer or hard copy, and keep the notes people send you. This VERIFIES that you are truly providing a service. (Also it might be a good idea to wrap the $1.00 bill in dark paper to reduce the risk of mail theft.) So, as each post is downloaded and the directions carefully followed, six members will be reimbursed for their participation as a List Developer with one dollar each. Your name will move up the list geometrically so that when your name reaches the #1 position you will be receiving thousands of dollars in CASH!!! What an opportunity for only $6.00 ($1.00 for each of the first six people listed above) Send it now, add your name to the list and you’re in business!
    *DIRECTIONS FOR HOW TO POST TO NEWSGROUPS*
    STEP 1: You do not need to re-type this entire letter to do your own posting. Simply put your mouse curser at the beginning of this letter, click and drag your curser to the bottom of this document, right click and select ‘copy’ from the edit menu. This will copy the entire letter into the computers memory.
    STEP 2: Open a blank ‘notepad’ file and place your mouse curser at the top of the page. Right click and click the ‘edit’ menu, select ‘paste.’ This will paste a copy of the letter into notepad so that you can add your name and postal address to the list.
    STEP 3: Save your new notepad file. If you want to do your postings in different settings, you’ll always have this file to go back to.
    STEP 4: Use Netscape or Internet Explorer and post this article as a new message by highlighting the text of this letter and selecting paste from the edit menu. Fill in the subject, this will be the header that everyone sees as they scroll through the list of postings in a particular group, click the “post” message button. You’re done with your first one! NOTE: Please don’t SPAM or send unsolicited emails. It’s completely illegal. Send emails to all the people you know or any ways that allow you to, instead of SPAMMING. (Just a reminder)
    CONGRATULATIONS…. THAT’S IT!!! All you have to do is just to different newsgroups and post away, after you get the hang of it, it will take about a minute for each newsgroup! ** REMEMBER, THE MORE NEWSGROUPS YOU POST IN, THE MORE MONEY YOU WILL MAKE!! BUT YOU HAVE TO POST A MINIMUM OF 220** That’s it! You will begin receiving money from around the world within days!!! NO JOKE!!! You may eventually rent a P.O. Box due to large amounts of mail you will receive. If you wish to stay anonymous, you can invent a name to use, as long as the postman will deliver it. ** JUST MAKE SURE ALL THE ADDRESSES ARE CORRECT. **
    * Now the WHY part; Out of 200 postings, say I receive only 5 replies (a very low example). So then I made $5.00 with my name at #6 on the letter. Now each of the 5 persons who just sent me $1.00 make the MINIMUN 200 postings, each with my name at #5 and only 5 persons respond to each of the original five, this is another $25.00 for me, now those 25 each make 200 MINIMUM posts with my name at #4 and only 5 replies each, I will bring in an additional $125.00! Now those, 125 persons turn around and post the MINIMUM 200 with my name at #3 and only receive 5 replies each, I will make an additional $626.00! OK, now here is the fun part, each of those 625 persons post a MINIMUM 200 letters with my name at #2, and they each only receive 5 replies, that just made me $3125.00!!! Those 3,125 persons will all deliver this message to 200 newsgroups with my name at #1 and if STILL only 5 persons per 200 newsgroups react I will receive $15,625.00! With an original investment of only $6.00! AMAZING!!! When your name is no longer on the list, putting your name at number 6 again. And start posting again. The thing to remember is: do you realize that thousands of people all over the world are joining the Internet and reading these articles everyday? JUST LIKE YOU are now!! So, can you afford $6.00 and see if it really works?? I think so…People have said, “what if the plan is played out and no one sends you the money.” So what! What are the chances of that happening when there are tons of new honest users and new honest people who are joining the Internet and newsgroups everyday and are willing to give it a try? Estimates are at 20,000 to 50,000 new users everyday, with thousands of those joining the actual Internet!!! REMEMBER, PLAY FAIRLY AND HONESTLY AND THIS WILL WORK FOR YOU!!!
  • ' ON 20040219@10:56:22 PM at page: http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist/index.htm#38036.9396527778 James Newton[JMN-EFP-786] removed post 38036.9396527778 |Delete 'MIKEFB785@AOL.COM
    /techref/piclist/EASY MONEY MAKING Dear Internet User:
    Good Day! This article I’ve written is all about the fact that I’ve earned an ASTOUNDING amount of money in less than a month and I’ve decided to share the secret with you…(yah you the one reading this message) behind making big bucks in the Mail Order Business.
    So all money seekers…Read this carefully!
    Hi. I’m 20 years old and I make more money than my parents, and so can you! Turn $6.00 into $60,000 or more….read this to find out how!!! READING THIS COULD CHANGE YOUR LIFE!!! IT SURE CHANGED MINE!
    I found this on a bulletin board like this one and decided to try it because I was desperate for money. A little while back I was browsing through several newsgroups, just like you are now, and came across an article, similar to this, that said you could make thousands of dollars within weeks, with only an additional investment of $6.00! So I thought, “Yah right! This must be a scam,” but like most of us, I was curious so I kept reading. It said that: you need to send $1.00 to each of the six names and address stated in this article. You then place your own name and address in the bottom of the list at #6, and post the article in at least 200 newsgroups. (There are millions) No catch, that was it. So after thinking it over and talking to a few people first, I thought about trying it! I figured: “What have I got to loose except 6 stamps, and $6.00, right?” Then I invested the measly $6.00. WELL, GUESS WHAT!!… Within 7 days, I started getting money in them mail! I was SHOCKED!!! I figured it would end soon, but the money just kept on coming in. In my first week, I made about $25.00. By the end of the second week I had made a total of over $1,000.00! In the third week I had over $10,000.00 and it’s still growing! This is now my fourth week and I have made just over 42,000.00, and it’s still coming in very rapidly! It’s certainly worth $6.00, and 6 stamps!
    Let me tell you how this works, and most importantly, why it works…. Also, make sure you print a copy of this article NOW, so you can get the information off of it as you need it. I promise you that if you follow the directions exactly, that you will start making more money than you thought possible by doing something so easy!
    SUGGESTION: READ THIS ENTIRE MESSAGE CAREFULLY! (Print it out or download it.) Follow the simple directions and watch the money come in! It’s easy. It’s legal. And, your investment is only $6.00 (plus postage).
    IMPORTANT: This is not a rip-off; it is not indecent; it is not illegal; and it is virtually no risk-it really works!!!! If all the following instructions are adhered to, you will receive extraordinary dividends!
    (PLEASE NOTE: Please follow these directions EXACTLY, and $50,000.00 or more can be yours in 20-60 days. This program remains successful because of the honesty and integrity of the participants. Please continue its success by carefully adhering to the instructions. You will now become part of the Mail Order business. In this business your product your product is not sold and tangible, it’s a service. You are in the business of developing Mailing Lists. Many large corporations are happy to pay big bucks for quality lists. However the money made from the mailing lists is secondary to the income which is made from people like you and me asking to be included in that.)
    *HERE ARE 4 EASY STEPS TO GET STARTED*
    STEP 1: Get six separate pieces of paper and write the following on each piece of paper, “PLEASE PUT ME ON YOUR MAILING LIST.” (And your address) Now get 6 US $1.00 bills and place ONE inside EACH of the 6 pieces of paper so the bill will not be seen through the envelope (Please make sure that the bill wouldn’t be noticed in the envelope to prevent thievery (a dark piece of paper is best!) Use US $ DOLLAR, so it would be more acceptable.
    STEP 2: Next, place one paper (with the bill inside) in each of the six envelopes and seal them properly. You should now have six sealed envelopes, each with a piece of paper stating the phrase: “PLEASE PUT ME ON YOUR MAILING LIST,” your name and address, and a $1.00 bill.
    What you are doing is creating a service. THIS IS ABSOLUTELY LEGAL!!! You are requesting for a legitimate service and you are paying for it! Like most of us, I was a little skeptical and a little worried about the legal aspects of it all. So I checked it out with the U.S. Post office (1-800-725-2161) and they confirmed that it is indeed legal!
    MAIL THE 6 ENVELOPES TO THE FOLLOWING ADDRESSES BELOW:
    #1.) Victor Bell 5820 N Kenmore Chicago, Il 60660 Apt. 201
    #2.) Ayana Webster 559 16th Street Oakland, CA 94608
    #3.) Natasha Sheridan P.O. Box 399 Menahga, MN 56464
    #4.) A.N Flegel 18501 68th ST. E Bonney Lake, WA 98390
    #5.) Annette Brooks, 510 21st Street Oakland, CA 94612 #606
    #6.) Michael Tuccori 1010 Carlow Dr. Des Plaines, Il 60016
    STEP 3: Now take the #1 name off the list that you see above, move the other names up (6 becomes 5, 5 becomes 4, ect…) and add YOUR Name as number 6 on the list.
    STEP 4: copy this article. Change anything you need to, but try to keep this article as close to the original as possible. Now, post your amended article to at least 220 newsgroups. (I think there are close to 2.4 million groups) All you need is 220, but remember, the more you post, the more money you make!!! (You can make thousands of dollars more if you add just 40 more newsgroups to the 220) This is perfectly legal! If you have any doubts, refer to Title 18, Section 1302 and 1341, US Postal and Lottery Laws or Title 18, Section 3005 in the US code, also in the code of Federal regulations, volume 16, sections 255 and 436, which states; “a product or service must be exchanged for money received.” The simple note in the letter, “PLEASE PUT ME ON YOUR MAILING LIST,” Makes it legal because you are paying for exchange of a service, (adding the purchasers name to his mailing list) for a $1.00 fee.
    KEEP A COPY OF THESE STEPS FOR YOURSELF, and whenever you need the money, you can use it again and again! PLEASE REMEMBER that this program remains successful because of the honesty and integrity of the participants and by their carefully adhering to the directions. Look at it this way: If you are of integrity, the program will continue, and the money that so many others have received will come your way.
    NOTE: You may want to retain every name and address sent to you, either on a computer or hard copy, and keep the notes people send you. This VERIFIES that you are truly providing a service. (Also it might be a good idea to wrap the $1.00 bill in dark paper to reduce the risk of mail theft.) So, as each post is downloaded and the directions carefully followed, six members will be reimbursed for their participation as a List Developer with one dollar each. Your name will move up the list geometrically so that when your name reaches the #1 position you will be receiving thousands of dollars in CASH!!! What an opportunity for only $6.00 ($1.00 for each of the first six people listed above) Send it now, add your name to the list and you’re in business!
    *DIRECTIONS FOR HOW TO POST TO NEWSGROUPS*
    STEP 1: You do not need to re-type this entire letter to do your own posting. Simply put your mouse curser at the beginning of this letter, click and drag your curser to the bottom of this document, right click and select ‘copy’ from the edit menu. This will copy the entire letter into the computers memory.
    STEP 2: Open a blank ‘notepad’ file and place your mouse curser at the top of the page. Right click and click the ‘edit’ menu, select ‘paste.’ This will paste a copy of the letter into notepad so that you can add your name and postal address to the list.
    STEP 3: Save your new notepad file. If you want to do your postings in different settings, you’ll always have this file to go back to.
    STEP 4: Use Netscape or Internet Explorer and post this article as a new message by highlighting the text of this letter and selecting paste from the edit menu. Fill in the subject, this will be the header that everyone sees as they scroll through the list of postings in a particular group, click the “post” message button. You’re done with your first one! NOTE: Please don’t SPAM or send unsolicited emails. It’s completely illegal. Send emails to all the people you know or any ways that allow you to, instead of SPAMMING. (Just a reminder)
    CONGRATULATIONS…. THAT’S IT!!! All you have to do is just to different newsgroups and post away, after you get the hang of it, it will take about a minute for each newsgroup! ** REMEMBER, THE MORE NEWSGROUPS YOU POST IN, THE MORE MONEY YOU WILL MAKE!! BUT YOU HAVE TO POST A MINIMUM OF 220** That’s it! You will begin receiving money from around the world within days!!! NO JOKE!!! You may eventually rent a P.O. Box due to large amounts of mail you will receive. If you wish to stay anonymous, you can invent a name to use, as long as the postman will deliver it. ** JUST MAKE SURE ALL THE ADDRESSES ARE CORRECT. **
    * Now the WHY part; Out of 200 postings, say I receive only 5 replies (a very low example). So then I made $5.00 with my name at #6 on the letter. Now each of the 5 persons who just sent me $1.00 make the MINIMUN 200 postings, each with my name at #5 and only 5 persons respond to each of the original five, this is another $25.00 for me, now those 25 each make 200 MINIMUM posts with my name at #4 and only 5 replies each, I will bring in an additional $125.00! Now those, 125 persons turn around and post the MINIMUM 200 with my name at #3 and only receive 5 replies each, I will make an additional $626.00! OK, now here is the fun part, each of those 625 persons post a MINIMUM 200 letters with my name at #2, and they each only receive 5 replies, that just made me $3125.00!!! Those 3,125 persons will all deliver this message to 200 newsgroups with my name at #1 and if STILL only 5 persons per 200 newsgroups react I will receive $15,625.00! With an original investment of only $6.00! AMAZING!!! When your name is no longer on the list, putting your name at number 6 again. And start posting again. The thing to remember is: do you realize that thousands of people all over the world are joining the Internet and reading these articles everyday? JUST LIKE YOU are now!! So, can you afford $6.00 and see if it really works?? I think so…People have said, “what if the plan is played out and no one sends you the money.” So what! What are the chances of that happening when there are tons of new honest users and new honest people who are joining the Internet and newsgroups everyday and are willing to give it a try? Estimates are at 20,000 to 50,000 new users everyday, with thousands of those joining the actual Internet!!! REMEMBER, PLAY FAIRLY AND HONESTLY AND THIS WILL WORK FOR YOU!!!
  • ' ON 20040219@10:56:36 PM at page: http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist/index.htm#38036.9391898148 James Newton[JMN-EFP-786] removed post 38036.9391898148 |Delete 'MIKEFB785@AOL.COM
    /techref/piclist/EASY MONEY MAKING Dear Internet User:
    Good Day! This article I’ve written is all about the fact that I’ve earned an ASTOUNDING amount of money in less than a month and I’ve decided to share the secret with you…(yah you the one reading this message) behind making big bucks in the Mail Order Business.
    So all money seekers…Read this carefully!
    Hi. I’m 20 years old and I make more money than my parents, and so can you! Turn $6.00 into $60,000 or more….read this to find out how!!! READING THIS COULD CHANGE YOUR LIFE!!! IT SURE CHANGED MINE!
    I found this on a bulletin board like this one and decided to try it because I was desperate for money. A little while back I was browsing through several newsgroups, just like you are now, and came across an article, similar to this, that said you could make thousands of dollars within weeks, with only an additional investment of $6.00! So I thought, “Yah right! This must be a scam,” but like most of us, I was curious so I kept reading. It said that: you need to send $1.00 to each of the six names and address stated in this article. You then place your own name and address in the bottom of the list at #6, and post the article in at least 200 newsgroups. (There are millions) No catch, that was it. So after thinking it over and talking to a few people first, I thought about trying it! I figured: “What have I got to loose except 6 stamps, and $6.00, right?” Then I invested the measly $6.00. WELL, GUESS WHAT!!… Within 7 days, I started getting money in them mail! I was SHOCKED!!! I figured it would end soon, but the money just kept on coming in. In my first week, I made about $25.00. By the end of the second week I had made a total of over $1,000.00! In the third week I had over $10,000.00 and it’s still growing! This is now my fourth week and I have made just over 42,000.00, and it’s still coming in very rapidly! It’s certainly worth $6.00, and 6 stamps!
    Let me tell you how this works, and most importantly, why it works…. Also, make sure you print a copy of this article NOW, so you can get the information off of it as you need it. I promise you that if you follow the directions exactly, that you will start making more money than you thought possible by doing something so easy!
    SUGGESTION: READ THIS ENTIRE MESSAGE CAREFULLY! (Print it out or download it.) Follow the simple directions and watch the money come in! It’s easy. It’s legal. And, your investment is only $6.00 (plus postage).
    IMPORTANT: This is not a rip-off; it is not indecent; it is not illegal; and it is virtually no risk-it really works!!!! If all the following instructions are adhered to, you will receive extraordinary dividends!
    (PLEASE NOTE: Please follow these directions EXACTLY, and $50,000.00 or more can be yours in 20-60 days. This program remains successful because of the honesty and integrity of the participants. Please continue its success by carefully adhering to the instructions. You will now become part of the Mail Order business. In this business your product your product is not sold and tangible, it’s a service. You are in the business of developing Mailing Lists. Many large corporations are happy to pay big bucks for quality lists. However the money made from the mailing lists is secondary to the income which is made from people like you and me asking to be included in that.)
    *HERE ARE 4 EASY STEPS TO GET STARTED*
    STEP 1: Get six separate pieces of paper and write the following on each piece of paper, “PLEASE PUT ME ON YOUR MAILING LIST.” (And your address) Now get 6 US $1.00 bills and place ONE inside EACH of the 6 pieces of paper so the bill will not be seen through the envelope (Please make sure that the bill wouldn’t be noticed in the envelope to prevent thievery (a dark piece of paper is best!) Use US $ DOLLAR, so it would be more acceptable.
    STEP 2: Next, place one paper (with the bill inside) in each of the six envelopes and seal them properly. You should now have six sealed envelopes, each with a piece of paper stating the phrase: “PLEASE PUT ME ON YOUR MAILING LIST,” your name and address, and a $1.00 bill.
    What you are doing is creating a service. THIS IS ABSOLUTELY LEGAL!!! You are requesting for a legitimate service and you are paying for it! Like most of us, I was a little skeptical and a little worried about the legal aspects of it all. So I checked it out with the U.S. Post office (1-800-725-2161) and they confirmed that it is indeed legal!
    MAIL THE 6 ENVELOPES TO THE FOLLOWING ADDRESSES BELOW:
    #1.) Victor Bell 5820 N Kenmore Chicago, Il 60660 Apt. 201
    #2.) Ayana Webster 559 16th Street Oakland, CA 94608
    #3.) Natasha Sheridan P.O. Box 399 Menahga, MN 56464
    #4.) A.N Flegel 18501 68th ST. E Bonney Lake, WA 98390
    #5.) Annette Brooks, 510 21st Street Oakland, CA 94612 #606
    #6.) Michael Tuccori 1010 Carlow Dr. Des Plaines, Il 60016
    STEP 3: Now take the #1 name off the list that you see above, move the other names up (6 becomes 5, 5 becomes 4, ect…) and add YOUR Name as number 6 on the list.
    STEP 4: copy this article. Change anything you need to, but try to keep this article as close to the original as possible. Now, post your amended article to at least 220 newsgroups. (I think there are close to 2.4 million groups) All you need is 220, but remember, the more you post, the more money you make!!! (You can make thousands of dollars more if you add just 40 more newsgroups to the 220) This is perfectly legal! If you have any doubts, refer to Title 18, Section 1302 and 1341, US Postal and Lottery Laws or Title 18, Section 3005 in the US code, also in the code of Federal regulations, volume 16, sections 255 and 436, which states; “a product or service must be exchanged for money received.” The simple note in the letter, “PLEASE PUT ME ON YOUR MAILING LIST,” Makes it legal because you are paying for exchange of a service, (adding the purchasers name to his mailing list) for a $1.00 fee.
    KEEP A COPY OF THESE STEPS FOR YOURSELF, and whenever you need the money, you can use it again and again! PLEASE REMEMBER that this program remains successful because of the honesty and integrity of the participants and by their carefully adhering to the directions. Look at it this way: If you are of integrity, the program will continue, and the money that so many others have received will come your way.
    NOTE: You may want to retain every name and address sent to you, either on a computer or hard copy, and keep the notes people send you. This VERIFIES that you are truly providing a service. (Also it might be a good idea to wrap the $1.00 bill in dark paper to reduce the risk of mail theft.) So, as each post is downloaded and the directions carefully followed, six members will be reimbursed for their participation as a List Developer with one dollar each. Your name will move up the list geometrically so that when your name reaches the #1 position you will be receiving thousands of dollars in CASH!!! What an opportunity for only $6.00 ($1.00 for each of the first six people listed above) Send it now, add your name to the list and you’re in business!
    *DIRECTIONS FOR HOW TO POST TO NEWSGROUPS*
    STEP 1: You do not need to re-type this entire letter to do your own posting. Simply put your mouse curser at the beginning of this letter, click and drag your curser to the bottom of this document, right click and select ‘copy’ from the edit menu. This will copy the entire letter into the computers memory.
    STEP 2: Open a blank ‘notepad’ file and place your mouse curser at the top of the page. Right click and click the ‘edit’ menu, select ‘paste.’ This will paste a copy of the letter into notepad so that you can add your name and postal address to the list.
    STEP 3: Save your new notepad file. If you want to do your postings in different settings, you’ll always have this file to go back to.
    STEP 4: Use Netscape or Internet Explorer and post this article as a new message by highlighting the text of this letter and selecting paste from the edit menu. Fill in the subject, this will be the header that everyone sees as they scroll through the list of postings in a particular group, click the “post” message button. You’re done with your first one! NOTE: Please don’t SPAM or send unsolicited emails. It’s completely illegal. Send emails to all the people you know or any ways that allow you to, instead of SPAMMING. (Just a reminder)
    CONGRATULATIONS…. THAT’S IT!!! All you have to do is just to different newsgroups and post away, after you get the hang of it, it will take about a minute for each newsgroup! ** REMEMBER, THE MORE NEWSGROUPS YOU POST IN, THE MORE MONEY YOU WILL MAKE!! BUT YOU HAVE TO POST A MINIMUM OF 220** That’s it! You will begin receiving money from around the world within days!!! NO JOKE!!! You may eventually rent a P.O. Box due to large amounts of mail you will receive. If you wish to stay anonymous, you can invent a name to use, as long as the postman will deliver it. ** JUST MAKE SURE ALL THE ADDRESSES ARE CORRECT. **
    * Now the WHY part; Out of 200 postings, say I receive only 5 replies (a very low example). So then I made $5.00 with my name at #6 on the letter. Now each of the 5 persons who just sent me $1.00 make the MINIMUN 200 postings, each with my name at #5 and only 5 persons respond to each of the original five, this is another $25.00 for me, now those 25 each make 200 MINIMUM posts with my name at #4 and only 5 replies each, I will bring in an additional $125.00! Now those, 125 persons turn around and post the MINIMUM 200 with my name at #3 and only receive 5 replies each, I will make an additional $626.00! OK, now here is the fun part, each of those 625 persons post a MINIMUM 200 letters with my name at #2, and they each only receive 5 replies, that just made me $3125.00!!! Those 3,125 persons will all deliver this message to 200 newsgroups with my name at #1 and if STILL only 5 persons per 200 newsgroups react I will receive $15,625.00! With an original investment of only $6.00! AMAZING!!! When your name is no longer on the list, putting your name at number 6 again. And start posting again. The thing to remember is: do you realize that thousands of people all over the world are joining the Internet and reading these articles everyday? JUST LIKE YOU are now!! So, can you afford $6.00 and see if it really works?? I think so…People have said, “what if the plan is played out and no one sends you the money.” So what! What are the chances of that happening when there are tons of new honest users and new honest people who are joining the Internet and newsgroups everyday and are willing to give it a try? Estimates are at 20,000 to 50,000 new users everyday, with thousands of those joining the actual Internet!!! REMEMBER, PLAY FAIRLY AND HONESTLY AND THIS WILL WORK FOR YOU!!!
    ' ON 20040227@11:29:59 AM at page: http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist/listfaq.htm#38044.4789930556 [dimfeld-umail-] Says For anyone having trouble with Outlook Express mangling the topic tags, the solution is simple. You can fix this by sending the command SET PICLIST SUBJECTHDR in the body of an email to LISTSERV@MITVMA.MIT.EDU

    This way, every message's topic tag is prefixed with [PICLIST], and Outlook stops mangling it. See the answer to "How can I sort email from the PICList to separate it from my other email?" for more details. ON 20040227@5:18:39 PM at page: http://www.piclist.compiclist/questions.htm#38043.5598148148 James Newton[JMN-EFP-786] Published and replied to post 38043.5598148148 |Insert 'Have you looked at the SX chips? Like a small PIC but at 75Mhz AND 4x Overclocking.
    http://www.sxlist.com ' at: '' Hi,
    i need info about PIC overclocking, i need realy high speed. Something about 50 - 100 MHz if it is possible more.
    I think, if PIC have higher freq needs higher Voltage. I need to know i can give for example 8 or 10 Volts and make cooling on PIC. Can it work? |Delete 'P-' before: '' but after: '