Received: from PCH.mit.edu (18.7.21.50) by mail.efplus.com (192.168.0.8) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.485.1; Mon, 13 Sep 2021 06:10:35 -0700 Received: from PCH.MIT.EDU (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by PCH.mit.edu (8.14.7/8.12.8) with ESMTP id 18DCvbs6023706; Mon, 13 Sep 2021 08:58:17 -0400 Received: from outgoing-exchange-5.mit.edu (OUTGOING-EXCHANGE-5.MIT.EDU [18.9.28.59]) by PCH.mit.edu (8.14.7/8.12.8) with ESMTP id 18DCvaUk023703 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2021 08:57:36 -0400 Received: from w92exedge3.exchange.mit.edu (W92EXEDGE3.EXCHANGE.MIT.EDU [18.7.73.15]) by outgoing-exchange-5.mit.edu (8.14.7/8.12.4) with ESMTP id 18DCvJ9S025482 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2021 08:57:36 -0400 Received: from w92exhyb6.exchange.mit.edu (18.7.71.111) by w92exedge3.exchange.mit.edu (18.7.73.15) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1497.23; Mon, 13 Sep 2021 08:56:45 -0400 Received: from w92exhyb6.exchange.mit.edu (18.7.71.111) by w92exhyb6.exchange.mit.edu (18.7.71.111) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1497.23; Mon, 13 Sep 2021 08:56:55 -0400 Received: from NAM10-BN7-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (104.47.70.103) by w92exhyb6.exchange.mit.edu (18.7.71.111) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1497.23 via Frontend Transport; Mon, 13 Sep 2021 08:56:55 -0400 Received: from DM5PR12CA0002.namprd12.prod.outlook.com (2603:10b6:4:1::12) by DM5PR01MB2779.prod.exchangelabs.com (2603:10b6:3:fd::15) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id 15.20.4500.14; Mon, 13 Sep 2021 12:57:10 +0000 Received: from DM6NAM11FT051.eop-nam11.prod.protection.outlook.com (2603:10b6:4:1:cafe::e4) by DM5PR12CA0002.outlook.office365.com (2603:10b6:4:1::12) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id 15.20.4500.14 via Frontend Transport; Mon, 13 Sep 2021 12:57:10 +0000 Received: from mulvey.us (24.169.71.174) by DM6NAM11FT051.mail.protection.outlook.com (10.13.172.243) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA384) id 15.20.4500.14 via Frontend Transport; Mon, 13 Sep 2021 12:57:09 +0000 Received: from [192.168.100.55] ([192.168.100.55]) by mulvey.us with MailEnable ESMTPSA (version=TLS1_2 cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA_P256); Mon, 13 Sep 2021 08:57:07 -0400 From: Allen Mulvey To: "piclist@mit.edu" Sender: "piclist-bounces@mit.edu" Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2021 05:57:07 -0700 Subject: Re: [EE] LM1084 regulator question Thread-Topic: [EE] LM1084 regulator question Thread-Index: AdeooL2bDHO0NbSNS92ZD8sm1WpCkA== Message-ID: References: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , In-Reply-To: Reply-To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. 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They used a linear regulator=20 to tap 5v off the 12v supply. They put a small value, large wattage=20 resistor in series with the input pin on the regulator. It worked in=20 that the regulator did not get excessively hot but the resistor was too=20 hot to touch. I cut out the resistor and put in a switching device like=20 Justin mentioned below. Now nothing gets hot and it has been working for=20 a decade without any problems. Allen On 9/13/2021 2:13 AM, Justin Richards wrote: > Hi Bill, > > if you are looking for cheap, I use something like "Mini360 3A DC-DC > Voltage Step Down Converter Buck 4.75-23V to 1-17V" fom ebay for ~$3 > > Not sure they are good for the rated 3A, but if this is something you wou= ld > consider using i would be happy to load one up and see which point it fai= ls. > > Justin > > On Mon, Sep 13, 2021 at 12:54 PM William Couture wro= te: > >> As a reply to everyone: >> >> The output capacitor is a 22uF electrolytic, thought it would be enough. >> >> But, from the other comments, it's a thermal problem -- too much power >> (heat) >> is being dissipated going from 24V (needed elsewhere in the system) to 5= V. >> >> I'll look at switching supplies and see what I can do there. >> >> Thanks! >> Bill >> >> On Sun, Sep 12, 2021 at 10:33 AM William Couture >> wrote: >> >>> Hi! >>> >>> I need about 3A of 5V, with a 24V supply. I'm trying to use a LM1084 i= n >> a >>> TO-220, which is >>> rated at 5A output. >>> >>> However, when I try to pull more than about 250mA, the regulator become= s >>> very hot and I >>> start getting dropouts. A heatsink does not help. >>> >>> I have an electrolytic capacitor on the output, not a tantalum like in >> the >>> datasheet, could that >>> be the problem? >>> >>> I tried putting a 7805 in the circuit (with appropriate pinout changes) >>> and it's fine up to 1A, >>> so the problem is the LM1084 itself. >>> >>> If the LM1084 will not work, can anyone suggest a low-cost circuit to g= et >>> 3A or so of 5V >>> from 24V? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Bill >>> >>> -- >>> Psst... Hey, you... Buddy... Want a kitten? >> straycatblues.petfinder.org >> >> -- >> Psst... Hey, you... Buddy... 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