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Sender: "piclist-bounces@mit.edu" Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2021 05:48:13 -0700 Subject: Re: [EE] Tek DSO display issue? Thread-Topic: [EE] Tek DSO display issue? Thread-Index: AdeRDDLKMPlwMT/iQ1aA10wSnN2C5g== Message-ID: References: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , In-Reply-To: Reply-To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. 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The falling edge looks to have a bit of a slope to it. Also, chec= k I picked a FDD86367 to start but then tried with a few others. I'm a bit unhappy about those lengthy switching times but I don't see much space to move. The Qg for the FDD86367 is 68nC which is pretty low. No gate resistance but I did try 10R with little change. I've got the high speed current paths as short as possible - I even cut and shut the inductor directly to minimise some PCB traces but didn't see any improvement. > Your second photo may be showing artifacts of overloading the front end = of > the scope (in the 2V range). Yes, indeed I think this is the issue. Today I put a 10K-10K divider across D and S and measured at the half point rather than across DS. The scope started "playing up" and curving the edges at 0.5V/div. I am now pretty sure that the waveform clipped from the top of the scope display is not a don't care - it does seem to saturate the input circuits. I must say this has never caught me out with this scope in 2 decades! --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .