Received: from PCH.mit.edu (18.7.21.50) by mail.efplus.com (192.168.0.8) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.485.1; Fri, 13 Aug 2021 13:51:05 -0700 Received: from PCH.MIT.EDU (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by PCH.mit.edu (8.14.7/8.12.8) with ESMTP id 17DKfKOL026443; Fri, 13 Aug 2021 16:41:47 -0400 Received: from outgoing-exchange-5.mit.edu (OUTGOING-EXCHANGE-5.MIT.EDU [18.9.28.59]) by PCH.mit.edu (8.14.7/8.12.8) with ESMTP id 17DKfJOG026440 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Fri, 13 Aug 2021 16:41:20 -0400 Received: from w92exedge3.exchange.mit.edu (W92EXEDGE3.EXCHANGE.MIT.EDU [18.7.73.15]) by outgoing-exchange-5.mit.edu (8.14.7/8.12.4) with ESMTP id 17DKf61s025397 for ; Fri, 13 Aug 2021 16:41:19 -0400 Received: from oc11expo31.exchange.mit.edu (18.9.4.104) by w92exedge3.exchange.mit.edu (18.7.73.15) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1497.23; Fri, 13 Aug 2021 16:40:55 -0400 Received: from w92exhyb2.exchange.mit.edu (18.7.71.32) by oc11expo31.exchange.mit.edu (18.9.4.104) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1497.23; Fri, 13 Aug 2021 16:41:01 -0400 Received: from NAM02-BN1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (104.47.51.45) by w92exhyb2.exchange.mit.edu (18.7.71.32) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1497.23 via Frontend Transport; Fri, 13 Aug 2021 16:41:02 -0400 Received: from CO2PR07CA0048.namprd07.prod.outlook.com (2603:10b6:100::16) by BN7PR01MB3682.prod.exchangelabs.com (2603:10b6:406:8b::24) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id 15.20.4415.19; Fri, 13 Aug 2021 20:41:01 +0000 Received: from CO1NAM11FT027.eop-nam11.prod.protection.outlook.com (2603:10b6:100:0:cafe::a6) by CO2PR07CA0048.outlook.office365.com (2603:10b6:100::16) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id 15.20.4415.16 via Frontend Transport; Fri, 13 Aug 2021 20:41:00 +0000 Received: from mail-io1-f52.google.com (209.85.166.52) by CO1NAM11FT027.mail.protection.outlook.com (10.13.174.224) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id 15.20.4415.16 via Frontend Transport; Fri, 13 Aug 2021 20:41:00 +0000 Received: by mail-io1-f52.google.com with SMTP id b7so5891768iob.4 for ; Fri, 13 Aug 2021 13:41:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 2002:a5d:9b03:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Fri, 13 Aug 2021 13:40:59 -0700 (PDT) From: James Daldry To: piclist Sender: "piclist-bounces@mit.edu" Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2021 13:40:59 -0700 Subject: Subject: [OT]:: Australian example of real world cost of replacing coal power stations with Wind Power + Pumped hydro storage. Thread-Topic: Subject: [OT]:: Australian example of real world cost of replacing coal power stations with Wind Power + Pumped hydro storage. Thread-Index: AdeQhO+j7pHveAgQSZ6+D/vnKlrHiA== Message-ID: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Reply-To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. Accept-Language: en-US X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthAs: Anonymous X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthSource: TS500.efplus4.local X-MS-Has-Attach: X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-MS-Exchange-Organization-SenderIdResult: Pass X-MS-Exchange-Organization-PRD: mit.edu X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: received-spf: Pass (protection.outlook.com: domain of gmail.com designates 209.85.166.52 as permitted sender) receiver=protection.outlook.com; client-ip=209.85.166.52; helo=mail-io1-f52.google.com; dkim-signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=RhUdz/cUprYsKFOtQ75Sm0MjHRbRf5/SD/anaPYdYGo=; b=TDpHn4b6aT+n6jqedmH7F5m450E35hGbN8uUU1RyKMq6Jj1Bt4lE71wJtFoa8/lm4V 1guGqnAr4BUwd3UV2tWO8nEjqrckpoLiYL17fF58JtO1vmXy5vwAf8eeIh+ZjEJ9Ya/b Xmj7mta4fq5TdupjRkNVkuOreKMG3U5hfAv07m/coEDgQhrxGKI+sc2VeuOBMMNKl3IP Gbp/8jErPGOnCbkFKbRYzOYME7404xZIUDz/Kd43DBfhE2j+Fy05GNkO8tLJrSoO6AH6 2k0R28Osw9cIqA/YoJbu5OX99D4hCP8yvkCWlBCRot0Y6a7vyzrUkIDhfIKc2z8JRiqt /tpw== authentication-results: spf=pass (sender IP is 209.85.166.52) smtp.mailfrom=gmail.com; mit.edu; dkim=pass (signature was verified) header.d=gmail.com; mit.edu; dmarc=pass action=none header.from=gmail.com; errors-to: piclist-bounces@mit.edu list-id: "Microcontroller discussion list - Public." list-post: x-beenthere: piclist@mit.edu x-mailman-version: 2.1.6 x-received: by 2002:a5d:8e11:: with SMTP id e17mr3428021iod.138.1628887259825; Fri, 13 Aug 2021 13:40:59 -0700 (PDT) x-topics: [OT] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 I looked at the paper and saw that the costs involved were enormous. $2000 per kilowatt-hour. I then followed the link to the original paper. $2000 per kilowatt. No "hour". I can go on Amazon and buy penlight batteries for $200 per kilowatt-hour. Jim Daldry --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .