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Sender: "piclist-bounces@mit.edu" Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2021 10:59:59 -0700 Subject: Re: [OT]:: Australian example of real world cost of replacing coal power stations with Wind Power + Pumped hydro storage. Thread-Topic: [OT]:: Australian example of real world cost of replacing coal power stations with Wind Power + Pumped hydro storage. Thread-Index: AdeQboXsGMZYzsAdROu05jLirm63IQ== Message-ID: References: <20210813183252.624ffe07@raspberry> List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , In-Reply-To: <20210813183252.624ffe07@raspberry> Reply-To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. 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If it is then it seems churlish to bicker over the cost of green technologies, if it's not then we will have improved the planet at great cost and reduced our reliance on non renewable energy sources making our energy future more secure. I don't really see either as a bad outcome On Fri, 13 Aug 2021, 18:35 Alan Pearce, wrote: > On Sat, 14 Aug 2021 00:22:16 +1200 > RussellMc wrote: > > > I thought the following was technically interesting enough to be worth > > noting. > > The article is on a site which is much disapproved on by some due to > > its questioning of the current climate change message. > ... > > > > The article page may be a little hard to follow but does make sense. > > The related web page where the data comes from is somewhat hard to > > extract good information from but is the source of the analysis. > > Article <- read me first > > > https://wattsupwiththat.com/2021/08/12/energy-storage-an-estimate-using-a= ctual-data/ > > Source data https://www.spasmodicenergy.com/Pages/Home.aspx > > > > Russell > > Interesting read, although reading through the comments there still > seems to be sceptics on the numbers. I didn't really try to decide if > the sceptics were for or against the principles of the article though. > > -- > http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .