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CC: ApptechNZ Sender: "piclist-bounces@mit.edu" Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2021 05:22:16 -0700 Subject: [OT]:: Australian example of real world cost of replacing coal power stations with Wind Power + Pumped hydro storage. Thread-Topic: [OT]:: Australian example of real world cost of replacing coal power stations with Wind Power + Pumped hydro storage. Thread-Index: AdeQP2Npiwzukg+VT+CxcuZye20uVw== Message-ID: References: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , In-Reply-To: Reply-To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. 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The article is on a site which is much disapproved on by some due to its questioning of the current climate change message. Hopefully this will not dissuade people liable to be interested in the subject from "either side" from looking at what APPEARS to be a well researched and informative presentation. There may be flaws in it but at a quick look through it seemed OK. This is an Australian based example of the (calculated) real world cost of replacing retiring coal power stations with 'Wind Power + Pumped hydro storage.' The result is (to me) sobering. I'd like the various "cleaner greener" technologies to be economically viable, but it seems to be challenging. The article page may be a little hard to follow but does make sense. The related web page where the data comes from is somewhat hard to extract good information from but is the source of the analysis. Article <- read me first https://wattsupwiththat.com/2021/08/12/energy-storage-an-estimate-using-act= ual-data/ Source data https://www.spasmodicenergy.com/Pages/Home.aspx Russell --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .