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It did not work. It appears to be something=20 in Windows not the adapter. Thanks, Allen On 8/10/2021 12:03 AM, Allen Mulvey wrote: > I'll look into this. Several years ago I was using Mellanox ConnectX-2 > cards and an update broke them. Right after I bought Mellanox ConnectX-3 > cards they fixed the problem. Maybe I'll see if it works over copper. > > Thanks, > Allen > > On 8/9/2021 10:59 PM, RussellMc wrote: >> On Tue, 10 Aug 2021 at 13:41, Allen Mulvey wrote: >> >>> I have an access control system for my home which uses a central >>> controller with Wiegand RFID scanner/keyboards at the access points. It >>> has worked well for many years. The software was made pre-Windows 10 >>> but, until last April, it worked fine on Windows 10 Pro. It worked fine >>> on Windows 10 pro in April 2020. >>> >> There was a change in Win10 earlier this year which "broke" many WIN >> systems running on old network hardware. >> As usual in such case uSoft did not issue a statement about this or any >> form of 'apology'. >> What they did do was to make a change in the update rollout that said ~~ >> "This update is not suitable for your system - you will be notified when >> the update can be installed." >> >> After a while an updated update was supplied. >> Systems that had had the update attempted remained broken. The internet >> networking did not work (at all in the systems that I saw as far as I >> knew). >> I tried to fix one without success and then found that installing a newe= r >> network card worked - in this case I added a USB interfaced card which >> "just worked". >> >> I'd suggest that there is a reasonable likelihood that you are in this >> position. >> If so either a trial with new hardware (external USB easy) or manually >> adding a more recent update may help. Or not. >> >> It's even p[ossible that a system updated via a temporary new network ca= rd >> will then work on the old card. >> >> I'd be interested to hear if this works. >> >> >> Russell --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .