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Sender: "piclist-bounces@mit.edu" Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2021 15:35:42 -0700 Subject: Re: [EE]: Solar Micro Inverters Thread-Topic: [EE]: Solar Micro Inverters Thread-Index: AdeGXcmubIZgjU/FSze0RvqG7mCVdA== Message-ID: References: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , In-Reply-To: Reply-To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. 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The rationale being that bang for buck declines when trying to build a micro inverter that caters for the rarely seen peak outputs. Seems reasonable. Justin On Sat, Jul 31, 2021 at 8:35 PM Luis Moreira < luis.moreira1575@googlemail.com> wrote: > Hi all, > Long time since posting here. > > I started having a look at solar micro inverters and although I can > understand the principle of them and why you would use them, I'm failing = to > find more detailed info.. > > Do you guys have any links for detailed descriptions for them that you > would like to share? > > My immediate questions are: > > - On the grid tied systems, are they all in effect connected in parallel > and with the grid directly or is there some sort of "aggregator" in place= ? > - do they have a short term storage device like a battery/capacitor > internally for the intermediate DC/DC converter or does it have some sort > of direct DC/DC/AC converter? > - how does the sync circuit work? it probably needs to be faster than a > normal inverter circuit or the wasted energy while trying to lock would b= e > too high. > > Any diagrams and algorithms would be greatly appreciated. > > Thank you in advanced > Best Regards > Luis > -- > http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .