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I did indeed check pin-to-pin with a meter in Contin= uity check mode. The interface board I've been discussing only offers 4 wires in its wire ha= rness: 1. +12V Power 2. GND 3. RS-485 "A" 4. RS-485 "B" It comes with a custom made wire harness that splices the interface board's= 4 wires onto 4 wires used by the factory head unit and then uses other wir= es in that custom wire harness to pass all signals from an external third p= arty CD/DVD player to the head unit. In other words, it is not a situation where the interface "PCB" takes all t= he wires from an external DVD player and then passes them through to the fa= ctory head unit. The interface board merely communicates with the factory = head unit via RS-485 (2 wires only) to trick the head unit into believing t= he externally connected DVD player is a factory unit. Without that injecti= on of code into the RS-485 data stream, the external DVD player will not be= recognized by the factory head unit. I am trying to determine what that p= rotocol is which allows third part devices to work with the factory head un= it, as I am unable to find any similar protocol information available onlin= e. I am also trying to figure out why they used such a high end PIC18 rath= er than just a PIC16. Best, James --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .