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Thread-Topic: [OT]Re: testing - is anybody there? Thread-Index: Addb5XXndF+eyydSS4afXnMR7uQ1Dg== Message-ID: <642ac647-e616-163a-fc4d-3f5c8c4c9368@amulvey.com> References: <20210606232246.6237a8d2@raspberry> <05344641-901b-5f06-1707-717198da8ccb@amulvey.com> <85f323a-1b90-ed22-3ba0-fe217c2327ce@allotrope.net> List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , In-Reply-To: <85f323a-1b90-ed22-3ba0-fe217c2327ce@allotrope.net> Reply-To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthAs: Anonymous X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthSource: TS500.efplus4.local X-MS-Has-Attach: X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-MS-Exchange-Organization-SenderIdResult: Pass X-MS-Exchange-Organization-PRD: mit.edu X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: received-spf: Pass (protection.outlook.com: domain of amulvey.com designates 24.169.71.174 as permitted sender) receiver=protection.outlook.com; client-ip=24.169.71.174; helo=mulvey.us; dkim-signature: v=1; c=relaxed/relaxed; h=to:references:from:subject:message-id:date:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type; d=amulvey.com; s=amulvey; a=rsa-sha256; bh=BU0+3BXc5XabQvXSzkQkhyQuLBxp4erAcbJHbsHAClA=; b=F8GyN4se9h1ERKr8PunqdMoH1FbAfr0UvlF2n8c0FbupPIqnKsyi+tWUaCtyCPBUm tWPp+Bh1h78FZ4f9YC22ZwjTwC1rVEzD0yYwc3NpFvK5VxsrISNFhv7vpPlqp0vLHk2 +GY9cTnTpiQJTR7dIrgI8N0SO3/9m7+K4thnYQ4=; authentication-results: spf=pass (sender IP is 24.169.71.174) smtp.mailfrom=amulvey.com; mit.edu; dkim=pass (signature was verified) header.d=amulvey.com;mit.edu; dmarc=bestguesspass action=none header.from=amulvey.com; user-agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.11.0 errors-to: piclist-bounces@mit.edu list-id: "Microcontroller discussion list - Public." list-post: x-beenthere: piclist@mit.edu x-mailman-version: 2.1.6 x-topics: [OT] x-content-filtered-by: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 x-me-bayesian: 0.000000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Sergio, My VM hosts my mail server and my web server. My gateway router uses=20 port forwarding on the necessary well-known ports. There is no proxy.=20 For mail administration, as a system administrator, I can log into the=20 VM and access everything in one place. This is necessary for most global=20 settings. However routine administration is done by a designated=20 administrator for each post office. He then uses a web app to access=20 only his own post office. A post office may have more than one domain=20 although most have only one. Clients may use webmail or any standard POP=20 or IMAP client app. I'm not sure if I answered your question. Allen On 6/7/2021 11:08 AM, smplx wrote: > > On Mon, 7 Jun 2021, Allen Mulvey wrote: > >> I don't have anywhere near that much traffic but neither do I process >> anything manually. For each filter I specify if a response should be >> made and to whom. >> >> My server is a VM hosted on a Hyper-V server. >> >> Allen >> > Hi Allen, > > I didn't meen to imply that 20,000+ emails a day were legitimate emails. > 99.5% are spam - so something had to be done!!! > > Postfix is very flexible, has an internal configuarable filter mechanism > and also allows you to add your own external filters. Its biggest downfal= l > (IMHO) is that there are over 900 configuration options (not to mention > the great many combinations of settings of these options) which makes it > very difficult to configure if you are not using it as a "simple" mail > server with a common (out of the box) canned template. > > The biggest problem I had with running the server on a machine other than > the gateway (in this case a virtual machine) was that the NAT interfered > with the senders address and so made it impossible to reject the emails > BEFORE they got queued. The standard way of getting around this was to pu= t > an SMTP proxy (actually another instance of Postfix) on the gateway and > forward the mail to the server. But this still left the proxy exposed and > the gateway vulnerable. > > Does your VM act as a server to other machines or do you log onto it and > handle all your mail directly on that? Do you use a proxy outside the VM > to forward the mail ***INTO*** the VM? > > Regards > Sergio --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .