Received: from PCH.mit.edu (18.7.21.50) by mail.efplus.com (192.168.0.8) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.485.1; Tue, 18 May 2021 10:00:46 -0700 Received: from PCH.MIT.EDU (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by PCH.mit.edu (8.14.7/8.12.8) with ESMTP id 14IGo9S8030629; Tue, 18 May 2021 12:51:05 -0400 Received: from outgoing-exchange-7.mit.edu (OUTGOING-EXCHANGE-7.MIT.EDU [18.9.28.58]) by PCH.mit.edu (8.14.7/8.12.8) with ESMTP id 14IGo7wq030607 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 18 May 2021 12:50:07 -0400 Received: from oc11exedge1.exchange.mit.edu (OC11EXEDGE1.EXCHANGE.MIT.EDU [18.9.3.17]) by outgoing-exchange-7.mit.edu (8.14.7/8.12.4) with ESMTP id 14IGo5P4019960 for ; Tue, 18 May 2021 12:50:07 -0400 Received: from oc11expo30.exchange.mit.edu (18.9.4.103) by oc11exedge1.exchange.mit.edu (18.9.3.17) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1497.2; Tue, 18 May 2021 12:50:14 -0400 Received: from oc11exhyb3.exchange.mit.edu (18.9.1.99) by oc11expo30.exchange.mit.edu (18.9.4.103) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1497.2; Tue, 18 May 2021 12:49:51 -0400 Received: from NAM12-BN8-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (104.47.55.169) by oc11exhyb3.exchange.mit.edu (18.9.1.99) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1497.18 via Frontend Transport; Tue, 18 May 2021 12:49:51 -0400 Received: from CO1PR15CA0079.namprd15.prod.outlook.com (2603:10b6:101:20::23) by DM5PR0101MB2985.prod.exchangelabs.com (2603:10b6:4:2b::25) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id 15.20.4129.31; Tue, 18 May 2021 16:49:50 +0000 Received: from CO1NAM11FT054.eop-nam11.prod.protection.outlook.com (2603:10b6:101:20:cafe::33) by CO1PR15CA0079.outlook.office365.com (2603:10b6:101:20::23) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id 15.20.4108.25 via Frontend Transport; Tue, 18 May 2021 16:49:50 +0000 Received: from mail-qk1-f171.google.com (209.85.222.171) by CO1NAM11FT054.mail.protection.outlook.com (10.13.174.70) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id 15.20.4129.25 via Frontend Transport; Tue, 18 May 2021 16:49:50 +0000 Received: by mail-qk1-f171.google.com with SMTP id i67so9928079qkc.4 for ; Tue, 18 May 2021 09:49:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Denny Esterline To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. Sender: "piclist-bounces@mit.edu" Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 09:51:04 -0700 Subject: Re: [EE] Power Factor Correction Thread-Topic: [EE] Power Factor Correction Thread-Index: AddMB1lm4M1M7zAfRByXWRT3bcZzyQ== Message-ID: References: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , In-Reply-To: Reply-To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. 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A couple years ago I got sucked into a ~2kW motor driver project and it quickly became relevant that PFC was going to be necessary. I made a couple half-hearted attempts to do it as part of the motor driver based on one of Microchip's app notes. It quickly spiraled into a rabbit hole of details that you either have to get _absolutly correct_ or the magic smoke exits vigorously. After more unsuccesful effort and expense than I'd like to admit, I tripped on purchasable PFC modules that I was able to incorporate into the design. Armed with my fuzzy memory and the Digikey website, here's a representative unit that (might) be the one I used. Artesyn Embedded Power AIF04ZPFC-01L Cost about $300 USD each, but unless you're doing high volume, I can assure you that your development effort is going to exceed that. :-) -Denny On Sun, May 16, 2021 at 3:33 PM Bob Blick wrote: > I wonder if anyone here has any experience with power factor correction > for switching power supplies. I don't, but have read this document from > OnSemi: > > https://www.onsemi.com/pub/Collateral/HBD853-D.PDF > > Basically it looks like a varying current-mode boost regulator with 385 > volt output, feeding a normal switching supply, is the simplest. Especial= ly > if you already have the power supplies and went cheap and bought the ones > without PFC built in. > > Discontinuous mode is the easiest to stabilize, but if I go that route > I'll need bigger or more MOSFETs to handle the current. On the other hand= , > if I breadboarded something touchy with continuous mode, I'll probably ki= ll > lots of devices and then just give up in disgust. I'll probably start sma= ll > before trying to build a 2KW unit, which is my goal. > > Anyway, if anyone has built a PFC controller, I'd love to hear. BTW, this > is just a hobby project for me. > > Thank, Bob > -- > http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .