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CC: Russell McMahon , "ken@elecsyn.com" Sender: "piclist-bounces@mit.edu" Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2021 22:42:19 -0700 Subject: Re: [EE]: 27xx64 EPROM Programmer Thread-Topic: [EE]: 27xx64 EPROM Programmer Thread-Index: AdcfqMkPXgfBlp3ASPmyIWT/p0hAFA== Message-ID: References: <6059391D.25105.322DF01E@brent.eds.co.nz> List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , In-Reply-To: Reply-To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. 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Interesting. While cause of failure is hard to establish without forensic analysis ( if then) we were not of the impression that we lost any from sunshine erasure once we started ensuring that they were well protected against electrostatic damage. When UV exposed they seemed to be far more ESD sensitive when UV exposed. I do not recall any losses when using an 18 W UV tube using "long enough" timing - possibly (but by no means certainly) due to by then ensuring great care re ESD was taken. Of interest is the fact that an EPROM will sometimes read unreliably if operated under fluorescent lighting at typical levels if the "window" is not covered. A running microcontroller program that is usually reliable can be seen to fault with an uncovered EPROM window. Russell --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .