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Sender: "piclist-bounces@mit.edu" Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2021 21:17:02 -0700 Subject: Re: [EE]: 27xx64 EPROM Programmer Thread-Topic: [EE]: 27xx64 EPROM Programmer Thread-Index: AQHXH3wsEDXVhNdy3E2iqAQYxGxt3KqQu2yAgAATmgCAACbvMg== Message-ID: References: <6059391D.25105.322DF01E@brent.eds.co.nz>, List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , In-Reply-To: Reply-To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. 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I attributed it to overdosin= g at an incorrect wavelength, and since then have always used an approved l= amp and never had a problem. EPROMs seemed more fussy about the correct wav= elength than photoresist :-) Friendly regards, Bob=20 ________________________________________ From: piclist-bounces@mit.edu on behalf of Russel= lMc=20 Sent: Monday, March 22, 2021 6:51 PM To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. Subject: Re: [EE]: 27xx64 EPROM Programmer On Tue, 23 Mar 2021 at 13:41, Brent Brown wrote: > ... I see that I have some second hand 27C64's in a drawer, hopefully > blank > else I'd have to dig a little deeper to find my UV eraser. > > A few hours of good NZ sunlight will erase UV EPROMS. Long ago we used to erase a significant number this was - through window glass ! - with good results. EPROMs MUST be on a conductive surface or in electrostatic- protective foam. Erasure on a nice dry warm brick window-ledge cost us a number of fatalities until we realised. Memory fades (around 1980) but if you erase until apparently blank and then double this time it should suffice. Time used varies but it got so we could erase them reliably without checking based on "sunnyness" - well under a day. I have a very capable UV germicidal source for large volumes. Works short term wonders on eyes if allowed - spectacles will apparently refract the light at a steep angle and allow eye burn even when not looking directly at the source! Ask my wife how I know ! :-( :-). It also possibly saved the sight in one of her eyes due to unrelated pending retinal detachment being detected when UV burn was being treated. Russell --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .