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Sender: "piclist-bounces@mit.edu" Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2021 22:21:40 -0800 Subject: Re: [EE] Low power energy measurement Thread-Topic: [EE] Low power energy measurement Thread-Index: AdcM0homHOC9j8kzQ5eaG9Jjq8cQgg== Message-ID: References: <60393FCA.3010901@narwani.org> List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , In-Reply-To: Reply-To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. 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They sometimes ha= ve > long-term reliability problems but it might work well for some experiment= s. > > You're probably aware of this but there is a fundamental thermodynamic > limit which depends on the temperature difference between the hot and col= d > sides. The greater the difference, the more energy you can theoretically > extract. This is called Carnot efficiency and the formula is 1-Tc/Th wher= e > Tc and Th are the kelvin temperatures of the cold and hot sides, > respectively. Then, beyond this, each technology for extracting said ener= gy > has its own limitations. I would expect that for a heat source at 100 deg= C > above room temp (Carnot efficiency 25%), thermoelectric generators are > going to be limited to extracting about 5% of the heat flow at best, and > about 2% is probably more realistic. > > On Fri, Feb 26, 2021 at 1:38 PM Neil wrote: > > > I'm trying to get a ballpark idea of how much energy I can get out of a > > small thermoelectric generator over an extended period of time. > > Anyone know of a simple circuit/project or even product I can pick up > > that would let me do this relatively easily (for now)? I just want to > > see if an idea is viable before investing too much into this. > > > > Cheers, > > -Neil. > > > > -- > > http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > > View/change your membership options at > > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > > > -- > http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .