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Sender: "piclist-bounces@mit.edu" Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2021 09:59:23 -0800 Subject: Re: [EE] Connecting european device to US main. Thread-Topic: [EE] Connecting european device to US main. Thread-Index: Adb0Dos3pJ203QZwSGSw46FLHsWBog== Message-ID: References: <7cc8c501-9e58-1d50-de8d-0e6ca40243cd@p10link.net> List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , In-Reply-To: <7cc8c501-9e58-1d50-de8d-0e6ca40243cd@p10link.net> Reply-To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. 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Most electronic devices now have "universal" power supplies that work from something like 100 V to 260 V. One thought on doing a phase to phase connection is the loss of overcurrent protection. I think pretty much everything only fuses the hot side of the power line. That guarantees no high voltage in a device that blows a fuse (blowing a fuse in the neutral would remove an overcurrent load but leave line voltage in the device). But, if operating phase to phase, what about a "neutral" to ground short? There would be no overcurrent protection at the device (just the branch circuit protection). I have thought of powering audio equipment that has a universal power supply from 240 V phase to phase to provide it with "balanced power" that results in a cancellation of ground leakage current due to the EMI filter Y capacitors. But, I am concerned about a lack of protection on one side of the line. Harold --=20 FCC Rules Updated Daily at http://www.hallikainen.com Not sent from an iPhone. --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .