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Sender: "piclist-bounces@mit.edu" Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2020 21:14:58 -0800 Subject: RE: [OT] Hyperikon Retrofit LED Tubes Without Ballast and fluorescent lamps and TV! Thread-Topic: [OT] Hyperikon Retrofit LED Tubes Without Ballast and fluorescent lamps and TV! Thread-Index: AdbEA+GP6lMu0s1FT7+76rziePIJFg== Message-ID: <20201125221458.06a56fd6300ec2bfca6379d4e10ab8d2.7f57746529.wbe@email27.godaddy.com> List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Reply-To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. 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Regards, Jim > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [OT] Hyperikon Retrofit LED Tubes Without Ballast and > fluorescent lamps and TV! > From: "Harold Hallikainen" > Date: Wed, November 25, 2020 5:41 pm > To: "Microcontroller discussion list - Public." >=20 >=20 > On the TV fluorescent lamps, yes the frequency was much higher than the > frame rate (though I don't remember what it was). >=20 > NTSC television is interesting! It's described at > http://mai.hallikainen.org/org/FCC/FccRules/2021/73/682/ . Prior to color= , > the field rate was indeed 60 Hz, the power line frequency, to avoid > rolling "hum bars." With color, it appears everything is based on a > precise 5 MHz with the chroma subcarrier being 5 MHz * 68/88. The > horizontal scan rate is 2/455 * the chroma subcarrier frequency. The fiel= d > rate is then 2/525 * the horizontal scan frequency. I think that the > frequencies were chosen such that dots created by the chroma signal would > be white on one scan and black on the next, letting the eye cancel them > out. Similarly, the European PAL system switched the chroma phase 180 > degrees on adjacent lines (since the image is interlaced, perhaps this > works out to just being a phase switch on each field). Chroma phase error > resulted in a hue shift, but in opposite directions on adjacent lines. So= , > the eye averaged them out to avoid hue shift due to chroma phase drift. > Clever! >=20 > On light flicker, movie projectors used to use an incandescent "exciter" > lamp to light the sound track. Light would pass through the film to a > photocell. At first, the film density was varied to carry the audio, but > later the black to white area (width of a white or black stripe on the > film) was varied to carry the sound. Of course, if the lamp was powered b= y > 60 Hz, you'd get 120 Hz hum in the sound. So, the obvious solution would > be to run the lamp on DC. But, many projectors instead ran the exciter > lamp on high frequency AC. There was a power oscillator to drive the > exciter lamp. >=20 > On the NE-2, one of my earliest project was an NE-2 based relaxation > oscillator running off a B battery. Choosing component values, I could ge= t > a light flasher or get audio out of it. >=20 > Harold > http://w6iwi.org >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > FCC Rules Updated Daily at http://www.hallikainen.com > Not sent from an iPhone. > --=20 > http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .