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Sender: "piclist-bounces@mit.edu" Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2020 19:26:15 -0800 Subject: Re: [EE] Microwave Oven Transformers Thread-Topic: [EE] Microwave Oven Transformers Thread-Index: AQHWWTDTdgLEYlLB80CMUa8aGORcYqkGGn2AgALBCRuAAAiKAIAABfHzgAAGgQCAAARH4YAAEa8AgAAJWtGABN8wPoBTsie4gGkyYUQ= Message-ID: References: , , , , List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , In-Reply-To: Reply-To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. 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To recap, this is a project to create a high current inductor to stabilize = DC current up to about 100 Amps. I have an inexpensive lightweight lunchbox= -size arc welder that works great with alkaline(6013) and low-hydrogen(7018= ) welding rods, but won't sustain an arc with cellulosic(6011) rods. My tho= ught was to try adding inductance in series with the welding cables to hope= fully allow use of cellulosic rods. My first attempt used a stripped microwave oven transformer with 25 turns o= f wire and a small air gap. Worked better with it than without it. I then tried using the inductor from my other arc welder, a Miller Thunderb= olt AC/DC. Using that inductor, the little lunchbox welder burned 6011 rods= "like butter", very smooth. The inductor from the Miller was very large, w= ith a lot of turns of wire. I tore my microwave oven inductor apart and rewound it with about 52 turns = of wire, reusing my wire. Previously I'd used 4 strands of 12AWG wire in pa= rallel, but this time I used the same wire with only 2 strands in parallel.= I also increased the air gap slightly. It works great, I can burn 6011 rods like nobody's business! Pictures to follow in a week or so, time permitting. Who knows about heat a= nd duty cycle, will know more as this project progresses. Cheers! Bob=20 ________________________________________ From: Bob Blick=20 Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2020 9:33 PM To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. Subject: Re: [EE] Microwave Oven Transformers Quick update. Here's the almost finished inductor made from a microwave ove= n transformer. Right now with a gap of about 0.5 mm the inductance is about= 1 millihenry. I will probably double to 1 mm which should lower the induct= ance by about 30 or 40 percent. Although I could weld it together as it was= originally, I will just use the clamp as shown. The top plate is two piece= s of wine barrel hoop butt welded together. Final number of turns is 25. Wire is 4 pieces of #12 AWG copper wire wrappe= d in more than 20 meters of 20mm wide polyimide tape. Hand and cat to show scale. Bob --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .