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Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-GB X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthAs: Anonymous X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthSource: TS500.efplus4.local X-MS-Has-Attach: X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-MS-Exchange-Organization-SenderIdResult: Pass X-MS-Exchange-Organization-PRD: mit.edu X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: received-spf: None (protection.outlook.com: jle.co.uk does not designate permitted sender hosts) dkim-signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mitprod.onmicrosoft.com; s=selector2-mitprod-onmicrosoft-com; h=From:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:MIME-Version:X-MS-Exchange-SenderADCheck; bh=u/wtaZWdUVIHBx+n5jmF68ehd/+f1ZXi0UQoRt3x12Y=; b=M4+3aqaSf3nG4SRJOI99eEHuBOJQzMHWQkXF9Yl/Om9mUyH99qc1pxLZIidgdjeUN8LSVPABMJhqZLyLhTUzellG5IIRRCa3XtRLRpNVpAeON9s95k4JyyxWczjUlm1vHXXLNb97b5lGhiNdZNtKWuRySMOrHwzeppbEXDDlYKU= authentication-results: spf=none (sender IP is 69.73.180.175) smtp.mailfrom=jle.co.uk; mit.edu; dkim=none (message not signed) header.d=none;mit.edu; dmarc=none action=none header.from=jle.co.uk; user-agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.10.0 errors-to: piclist-bounces@mit.edu list-id: "Microcontroller discussion list - Public." list-post: x-beenthere: piclist@mit.edu x-mailman-version: 2.1.6 x-source-args: x-source-dir: x-antiabuse: Sender Address Domain - jle.co.uk x-source: x-authenticated-sender: cedar.nocdirect.com: piclist@jle.co.uk x-topics: [PIC] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 From the datasheet DS41412F page 383: SYNC =3D 0 BRGH =3D 1, or SYNC =3D 1, BRG16 =3D 1 Actual speed =3D 115.11k, error -0.08% SPBRGHx: SPBRGx (decimal) =3D 138 I should have said Fosc, (not clock speed) =3D 64MHz. J On 20/10/2020 16:18, David VanHorn wrote: > What divisor? I get 555.55... > > On Tue, Oct 20, 2020, 9:11 AM John Lawton wrote: > >> Which device? >> >> For the 18F25K22, -0.08% error at 64MHz clock according to the datasheet= .. >> >> John >> >> On 20/10/2020 15:50, David VanHorn wrote: >>> 115200 might be tough since the divisor is getting small. >>> 7.372800 would work, 14.745600, and so on. >>> >>> >>> One thing a lot of people miss, which causes baud rates to be off, is >>> selecting the right crystal caps. >>> A crystal with CL of 22pF wants (2*CL-Cp) =3D 44pF - Cp where Cp is an >>> estimate of the parasitics (5 to 6 pf is a good first guess) >>> Running 22pF caps puts you a bit high, and the oscillator might not sta= rt >>> in all conditions. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 8:44 AM Neil wrote: >>> >>>> A bit academic, but this is bugging me... I was trying to get as close >>>> to 115,200 baud on a PIC18F running at 64Mhz (or thereabouts). >>>> At 64Mhz, best I can get is 0.8% error using SPBRG=3D34. >>>> Calculating backwards, to get exactly 115,200, I can't find an "exact" >>>> crystal. >>>> Shouldn't I be able to find one of those "odd" values to get exactly >>>> 115,200 baud at around 64Mhz? >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> -Neil. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive >>>> View/change your membership options at >>>> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist >>>> >> -- >> http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive >> View/change your membership options at >> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist >> --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .