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They can get me these: https://www.amazon.com/Mudder-Pieces-Charging-Battery-Protection/dp/B087Q91= 5LF/ 20 pieces for $10 US. Many other options available in the same approximate price range. -Denny On Tue, Oct 6, 2020 at 12:37 PM David C Brown wrote: > Thanks for that. > Yres the ADAFRUIT charger is expensive but I can have one on Thursday > rather than waiting six weeks for one to come from Asia and turn out to b= e > mechanically incompatible. Go the teeshirt on that. > > __________________________________________ > David C Brown > 43 Bings Road > Whaley Bridge > High Peak Phone: 01663 733236 > Derbyshire eMail: dcb.home@gmail.com > SK23 7ND web: www.bings-knowle.co.uk/dcb > > > > > *Sent from my etch-a-sketch* > > > On Tue, 6 Oct 2020 at 19:54, Dwayne Reid wrote: > > > Topic tag added > > > > Russell M is probably best to answer this but I'll pass on what I've > > learned over the years. > > > > As far as I know, standard Li-Ion and Lipo cells have almost > > identical chemistry. There used to be a slight difference between > > cells from different manufacturers in the anode material used. This > > lead to different nominal voltages (3.6V xs 3.7V) where the maximum > > charge voltage was 4.1V for the 3.6V cell and 4.2V for the 3.7V cell. > > > > Also as far as I know, most Li-Ion and Lipo cells are now of the 3.7V > > nominal voltage version. > > > > Do note that I am NOT talking about the LIFEPO4 cells (3.2V nominal). > > > > The charger module that you linked to seems entirely > > appropriate. Stupid expensive, though. There are far less expensive > > ready-made chargers available from Oh So Many Asian suppliers. > > > > Or - you could roll your own with free samples from Microchip. I use > > their MCP73831T-2DCI/OT in two of the products that we have built in > > the past. Less than Can $0.50 in 25 lot or free if you ask Microchip > > nicely. > > > > dwayne > > > > > > At 11:01 AM 10/6/2020, David C Brown wrote: > > >I have cell phone battery from a reputable manufacturer - Motorola - > > which > > >is marked > > >3.8v Lithium Ion Polymer battery. And I am seeking a charger module. > > > > > >I was under the impression that Li-ion and Li-poly were different > > >chemistries which require different charging regimes. Is that not so. > > > > > >And would this simple module https://tinyurl.com/y48gp4hu be suitable. > > >__________________________________________ > > >David C Brown > > >43 Bings Road > > >Whaley Bridge > > >High Peak Phone: 01663 733236 > > >Derbyshire eMail: dcb.home@gmail.com > > >SK23 7ND web: www.bings-knowle.co.uk/dcb > > > > > > > > > -- > > Dwayne Reid > > Trinity Electronics Systems Ltd Edmonton, AB, CANADA > > 780-489-3199 voice 780-487-6397 fax 888-489-3199 Toll Free > > www.trinity-electronics.com > > Custom Electronics Design and Manufacturing > > > > -- > > http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > > View/change your membership options at > > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > > > -- > http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .