Received: from PCH.mit.edu (18.7.21.50) by mail.efplus.com (192.168.0.8) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.485.1; Mon, 5 Oct 2020 05:31:15 -0700 Received: from PCH.MIT.EDU (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by PCH.mit.edu (8.14.7/8.12.8) with ESMTP id 095CMREA017251; Mon, 5 Oct 2020 08:22:36 -0400 Received: from outgoing-exchange-3.mit.edu (OUTGOING-EXCHANGE-3.MIT.EDU [18.9.28.13]) by PCH.mit.edu (8.14.7/8.12.8) with ESMTP id 095CMPxA017244 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2020 08:22:25 -0400 Received: from w92exedge3.exchange.mit.edu (W92EXEDGE3.EXCHANGE.MIT.EDU [18.7.73.15]) by outgoing-exchange-3.mit.edu (8.14.7/8.12.4) with ESMTP id 095CM1Rm013083 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2020 08:22:25 -0400 Received: from w92expo15.exchange.mit.edu (18.7.74.69) by w92exedge3.exchange.mit.edu (18.7.73.15) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1293.2; Mon, 5 Oct 2020 08:21:15 -0400 Received: from oc11exhyb6.exchange.mit.edu (18.9.1.111) by w92expo15.exchange.mit.edu (18.7.74.69) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1365.1; Mon, 5 Oct 2020 08:22:02 -0400 Received: from NAM10-MW2-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (104.47.55.105) by oc11exhyb6.exchange.mit.edu (18.9.1.111) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1395.4 via Frontend Transport; Mon, 5 Oct 2020 08:22:02 -0400 Received: from DM5PR07CA0049.namprd07.prod.outlook.com (2603:10b6:4:ad::14) by CY4PR01MB2664.prod.exchangelabs.com (2603:10b6:903:e7::13) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id 15.20.3433.34; Mon, 5 Oct 2020 12:22:00 +0000 Received: from DM3NAM03FT065.eop-NAM03.prod.protection.outlook.com (2603:10b6:4:ad:cafe::19) by DM5PR07CA0049.outlook.office365.com (2603:10b6:4:ad::14) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id 15.20.3433.32 via Frontend Transport; Mon, 5 Oct 2020 12:22:00 +0000 Received: from mout.perfora.net (74.208.4.196) by DM3NAM03FT065.mail.protection.outlook.com (10.152.82.254) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id 15.20.3433.34 via Frontend Transport; Mon, 5 Oct 2020 12:22:00 +0000 Received: from [192.168.24.2] ([69.142.220.70]) by mrelay.perfora.net (mreueus002 [74.208.5.2]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MJRQT-1kMNEV3z4t-00386p; Mon, 05 Oct 2020 14:21:57 +0200 From: Neil Cherry To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. , madscientistatlarge Sender: "piclist-bounces@mit.edu" Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2020 05:21:55 -0700 Subject: Re: [EE] Using a microcontroller as a peripheral? Thread-Topic: [EE] Using a microcontroller as a peripheral? Thread-Index: AdabE2sXtPRU6nvnTga+QS3PxELZLQ== Message-ID: References: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , In-Reply-To: Reply-To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthAs: Anonymous X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthSource: TS500.efplus4.local X-MS-Has-Attach: X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-MS-Exchange-Organization-SenderIdResult: Pass X-MS-Exchange-Organization-PRD: mit.edu X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: received-spf: Pass (protection.outlook.com: domain of linuxha.com designates 74.208.4.196 as permitted sender) receiver=protection.outlook.com; client-ip=74.208.4.196; helo=mout.perfora.net; dkim-signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mitprod.onmicrosoft.com; s=selector2-mitprod-onmicrosoft-com; h=From:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:MIME-Version:X-MS-Exchange-SenderADCheck; bh=SBSUJSLOourCNcamOpQOJSCj/zbzZCKawbIF6ur92xY=; b=H96zgaqGs9K6voR/0zXUadVVTvOLKO7i8jgAjeE71MvCt8qE0yYetc+cIEZ3MHNuzNiaM83hFllfoznIxgD7kFvoJWc6YE+R51TXizouBt3JBDDhnY8VdxQdvrORUwjAItafnyza0XHtqe5OEc+dqB148s6xxbWRhs966EkXt1s= authentication-results: spf=pass (sender IP is 74.208.4.196) smtp.mailfrom=linuxha.com; mit.edu; dkim=none (message not signed) header.d=none;mit.edu; dmarc=bestguesspass action=none header.from=linuxha.com; user-agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.12.0 errors-to: piclist-bounces@mit.edu list-id: "Microcontroller discussion list - Public." list-post: x-beenthere: piclist@mit.edu x-mailman-version: 2.1.6 x-provags-id: V03:K1:ftGjdg/7i1bNQUw1JlJfnNVmR6rPDgpRwj0zJXHkGslB5lFN6mX CoHQqdcxVPJ/Ty46CiZgrLDDjtN6H8Z3tsUC8trJmDGoApGjW0Iz1ZfXlh8qgOPB75yRBVr bjbU4UsOLRsOdsoCo4nbZfNV+yvcDdzuAW8uYR54nLiUUC8gBPeIm+U5NprCKeXxd9bZQr4 fWKZSJM4EDJAGbFDcjKZA== x-spam-flag: NO x-topics: [EE] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 On 10/5/20 1:56 AM, madscientistatlarge wrote: > It depends on what you consider "a peripheral chip", i.e. embedded and co= ntrolled by an > external cpu, or do you mean using as a peripheral for some special funct= ion (like the > soft power control on motherboards). Do you include things like ethernet= cards that > handle checksums/encryption to unload the main cpu? And of course the PI= C=20 > microcontrollers were originally for I/O expansion of other micros or pos= sibly larger=20 > systems with a higher end cpu? Burglar alarms with central monitoring wo= uld also=20 > likely be included if they are not ancient (I.E. the burglar/fire alarm h= as a micro,=20 > and the Monitoring station uses desktops and/or servers for the monitorin= g). My apologies, I did make that way too vague. Let me add specifics. I want t= o use a PIC32 as a peripheral chip like an 8255 and a 6850 and interfacing that to an exi= sting microprocessor chip as a 6502, 6809 or Z180. I happen to have these boards,= which is why I'm selecting these. This would be a parallel, 8 bit interface with add= ressing and control for accessing registers. I'm trying not to rewrite the firmware= on these old boards. And yes I do see the irony of taking a chip infinitely more powerful than t= he main CPU and turning it into a peripheral. But I want to start off with simple (= the 8255) and work to more complex (video chips) which really need to connect t= o HDMI now. Oh, this is a side project. Not something for work. So far my Search-fu has me running running into the peripherals of the MCU = not the MCU a peripheral of the CPU. --=20 Linux Home Automation Neil Cherry ncherry@linuxha.com http://www.linuxha.com/ Main site http://linuxha.blogspot.com/ My HA Blog Author of: Linux Smart Homes For Dummies --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .