Received: from PCH.mit.edu (18.7.21.50) by mail.efplus.com (192.168.0.8) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.485.1; Sat, 29 Aug 2020 13:41:20 -0700 Received: from PCH.MIT.EDU (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by PCH.mit.edu (8.14.7/8.12.8) with ESMTP id 07TKXMXk016990; Sat, 29 Aug 2020 16:33:27 -0400 Received: from outgoing-exchange-3.mit.edu (OUTGOING-EXCHANGE-3.MIT.EDU [18.9.28.13]) by PCH.mit.edu (8.14.7/8.12.8) with ESMTP id 07TKXLsk016987 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Sat, 29 Aug 2020 16:33:21 -0400 Received: from w92exedge4.exchange.mit.edu (W92EXEDGE4.EXCHANGE.MIT.EDU [18.7.73.16]) by outgoing-exchange-3.mit.edu (8.14.7/8.12.4) with ESMTP id 07TKXKdM030385 for ; Sat, 29 Aug 2020 16:33:21 -0400 Received: from oc11expo15.exchange.mit.edu (18.9.4.20) by w92exedge4.exchange.mit.edu (18.7.73.16) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1293.2; Sat, 29 Aug 2020 16:33:02 -0400 Received: from oc11exhyb2.exchange.mit.edu (18.9.1.98) by oc11expo15.exchange.mit.edu (18.9.4.20) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1365.1; Sat, 29 Aug 2020 16:33:20 -0400 Received: from NAM10-BN7-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (104.47.70.101) by oc11exhyb2.exchange.mit.edu (18.9.1.98) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1395.4 via Frontend Transport; Sat, 29 Aug 2020 16:33:20 -0400 Received: from MWHPR2001CA0019.namprd20.prod.outlook.com (2603:10b6:301:15::29) by CY1PR01MB2025.prod.exchangelabs.com (2a01:111:e400:c63a::9) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id 15.20.3305.24; Sat, 29 Aug 2020 20:33:18 +0000 Received: from CO1NAM03FT047.eop-NAM03.prod.protection.outlook.com (2603:10b6:301:15:cafe::29) by MWHPR2001CA0019.outlook.office365.com (2603:10b6:301:15::29) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id 15.20.3326.19 via Frontend Transport; Sat, 29 Aug 2020 20:33:18 +0000 Received: from cedar.nocdirect.com (69.73.180.175) by CO1NAM03FT047.mail.protection.outlook.com (10.152.81.48) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id 15.20.3326.19 via Frontend Transport; Sat, 29 Aug 2020 20:33:17 +0000 Received: from 25.16.187.81.in-addr.arpa ([81.187.16.25]:36529 helo=[10.0.0.28]) by cedar.nocdirect.com with esmtpsa (TLS1.2) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (Exim 4.93) (envelope-from ) id 1kC7XI-0000qh-Oz for piclist@mit.edu; Sat, 29 Aug 2020 16:33:16 -0400 From: John Lawton To: "piclist@mit.edu" Sender: "piclist-bounces@mit.edu" Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2020 13:33:14 -0700 Subject: Re: [EE] Looking for higher-voltage version of 2N4401 Thread-Topic: [EE] Looking for higher-voltage version of 2N4401 Thread-Index: AdZ+RMCXQFMuMENpToiGpaYtVm23pg== Message-ID: <83f6aeeb-e6ff-8da9-777b-6082dfcebc13@jle.co.uk> References: <41fe48b6404d497508bcd599345d8db7@mtlp000083> <5F49C1B7.2908.C43F364@brent.eds.co.nz> List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , In-Reply-To: <5F49C1B7.2908.C43F364@brent.eds.co.nz> Reply-To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-GB X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthAs: Anonymous X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthSource: TS500.efplus4.local X-MS-Has-Attach: X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-MS-Exchange-Organization-SenderIdResult: Pass X-MS-Exchange-Organization-PRD: mit.edu X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: received-spf: None (protection.outlook.com: jle.co.uk does not designate permitted sender hosts) dkim-signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mitprod.onmicrosoft.com; s=selector2-mitprod-onmicrosoft-com; h=From:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:MIME-Version:X-MS-Exchange-SenderADCheck; bh=07584+ccvoyRHYOcRI6t0Bw9m2L1786iLo+9CjMn41w=; b=fjGLJC0U9HN5D6K3HSRA4VISb1npM3ONxizFLzPdBRn40Fsn/UgDhYxiSxOkPYVCA5CL7gk5j873T4BBnRmU5pfGeTUsXXgmxI6Wmj/GO/8FYKZjAtX/HS67bGNbmO0km659sNf1sKLtw2oTjCgLhWjS/dbyxVE8Z2iBpjsauo0= authentication-results: spf=none (sender IP is 69.73.180.175) smtp.mailfrom=jle.co.uk; mit.edu; dkim=none (message not signed) header.d=none;mit.edu; dmarc=none action=none header.from=jle.co.uk; user-agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.10.0 errors-to: piclist-bounces@mit.edu list-id: "Microcontroller discussion list - Public." list-post: x-beenthere: piclist@mit.edu x-mailman-version: 2.1.6 x-source-args: x-source-dir: x-antiabuse: Sender Address Domain - jle.co.uk x-source: x-authenticated-sender: cedar.nocdirect.com: piclist@jle.co.uk x-topics: [EE] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 I would suggest the BC546C rather than the BC547C as it has a higher=20 voltage rating: Vcbo 80V Vceo 65V Gain @ 2mA 420-800 Ic (cont) 100mA John On 29/08/2020 03:47, Brent Brown wrote: > Hi Dwain, > > High gain made me think Zetex, looks like they are part of Diodes Inc now= .. Probably > overkill, but if price not a major consideration... > > ZTX692B 70V 1A hFE=3D400 E-line (TO-92 compatible) > > For much cheaper look at BC547 (A, B or C suffix). Spec sheet I looked at= has only > one graph for hFE, presumably the A suffix part as it shows gain of 200 @= Ic =3D > 1mA. Suffix B has more and C has the highest gain, should provide some he= ad > room. > > Brent > > On 28 Aug 2020 at 17:13, Dwayne Reid wrote: > >> Good day to all. >> >> I'm looking for an inexpensive jelly-bean transistor similar to >> 2n4401 but with minimum 60V rating. Of particular importance is that >> the DC current gain exceed 200 with collector current of about 1 mA. >> >> I've been going through the many choices at Digikey but I'm finding >> that although many suitable transistors have decent gain at fairly >> high currents (100 mA and up), they have sucky gain at low currents >> (1mA or so). >> >> I'd prefer to stay with a North American part number (2Nxxxx) but >> would absolutely consider others. >> >> Prefer something fairly robust, similar to the 2N4401. Decent >> current rating, in other words. >> >> Suggestions gratefully accepted! >> >> Many thanks! >> >> dwayne >> >> --=20 >> Dwayne Reid >> Trinity Electronics Systems Ltd Edmonton, AB, CANADA >> 780-489-3199 voice 780-487-6397 fax 888-489-3199 Toll Free >> www.trinity-electronics.com >> Custom Electronics Design and Manufacturing >> >> --=20 >> http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive >> View/change your membership options at >> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .