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Sender: "piclist-bounces@mit.edu" Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2020 09:42:07 -0700 Subject: Re: [EE] "Tactile" spec? Thread-Topic: [EE] "Tactile" spec? Thread-Index: AdZo7UkshDvICWXiQxmsimyrB+khYA== Message-ID: <5F26ECDF.5090505@narwani.org> References: <5F2583C6.6070307@narwani.org> <20200801123806.84831yce8vmtdmy6@webmail.ca.inter.net> List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , In-Reply-To: <20200801123806.84831yce8vmtdmy6@webmail.ca.inter.net> Reply-To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. 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I hadn't thought of hysteresis. I took the 2 numbers to mean 2=20 different switch versions/models (since I don't understand the=20 Chinese/related language). I'm now looking at the datasheet for a known tactile/clicky switch... https://sten-eswitch-13110800-production.s3.amazonaws.com/system/asset/prod= uct_line/data_sheet/144/TL1105.pdf I don't see any hysteresis or 2 force numbers for these either though. Cheers, -Neil. On 8/1/2020 12:38 PM, speff@interlog.com wrote: > > "Tact" switches are going to be tactile by default I think. > > The two "Operation force" numbers in the Hon Yuan datasheet imply hystere= sis > (one maximum force to actuate and one minimum force to release) so tactil= e > feel but but whether that means it makes a noise is not obvious (how wou= ld > you even specify that technically?). > > Also, if you look at the tolerance bands, they don't guarantee it > (though in practice I'm sure there is some hysteresis). > > --sp > --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .