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Thread-Topic: [EE] "Tactile" spec? Thread-Index: AdZoI5mz+JLCxgr/Rp62/4toDjd2dQ== Message-ID: <20200801123806.84831yce8vmtdmy6@webmail.ca.inter.net> References: <5F2583C6.6070307@narwani.org> List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , In-Reply-To: <5F2583C6.6070307@narwani.org> Reply-To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. Accept-Language: en-US X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthAs: Anonymous X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthSource: TS500.efplus4.local X-MS-Has-Attach: X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All X-MS-Exchange-Organization-SenderIdResult: Pass X-MS-Exchange-Organization-PRD: mit.edu X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: received-spf: Pass (protection.outlook.com: domain of interlog.com designates 208.85.220.69 as permitted sender) receiver=protection.outlook.com; client-ip=208.85.220.69; helo=mail-1.ca.inter.net; dkim-signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mitprod.onmicrosoft.com; s=selector2-mitprod-onmicrosoft-com; h=From:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:MIME-Version:X-MS-Exchange-SenderADCheck; bh=W3Yx1rKYxtGBqCvzX5yFEU6a7luaWWu6TNoQxo+6rSI=; b=EbHcEhOVxujGtyzzWfSrSBxAb3sS0+eTGOqvuEwy2THtZP2oiTCyqFnDJJnYoWh3WMrKgxFzINL6t1oBFvgCZl2PWHSvzhH29MGVpHSvmCkc2eduYdvojA+wtZnrPMO81HxJJ/4Ry25wPjQLHi/yUiLa81RGQUES0W3RsYxf1+g= authentication-results: spf=pass (sender IP is 208.85.220.69) smtp.mailfrom=interlog.com; mit.edu; dkim=none (message not signed) header.d=none;mit.edu; dmarc=bestguesspass action=none header.from=interlog.com; user-agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.3.7) errors-to: piclist-bounces@mit.edu list-id: "Microcontroller discussion list - Public." list-post: x-beenthere: piclist@mit.edu x-mailman-version: 2.1.6 x-topics: [EE] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Quoting Neil : > Is there some way to tell from a datasheet if a switch is "clicky"/tactil= e? "Tact" switches are going to be tactile by default I think. The two "Operation force" numbers in the Hon Yuan datasheet imply hysteresi= s (one maximum force to actuate and one minimum force to release) so tactile feel but but whether that means it makes a noise is not obvious (how would you even specify that technically?). Also, if you look at the tolerance bands, they don't guarantee it =20 (though in practice I'm sure there is some hysteresis). --sp > > I'm looking for switches for a really small custom keyboard, with > "larger" caps so I don't have to make keycaps (for a hand-held terminal). > I found variations of this ( > https://lcsc.com/product-detail/Tactile-Switches_ALPS-Electric-SKPMAPE010= _C110292.html > ) which are listed under "Tactile switches", but the datasheet ( > https://datasheet.lcsc.com/szlcsc/1811151425_ALPS-Electric-SKPMAPE010_C11= 0292.pdf > ) says "Soft feeling type". > Other brands don't seem to have anything about it, but not sure if > there's some spec that I don't know of... > https://datasheet.lcsc.com/szlcsc/1811011022_HYP-Hongyuan-Precision-1TS00= 9A-2000-5000-CT_C255813.pdf > https://datasheet.lcsc.com/szlcsc/1809271721_Korean-Hroparts-Elec-K2-1817= UQ-C4SW-01_C128939.pdf > > And aliexpress version says "silent" in the title... > https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32820232659.html?spm=3Da2g0w.10010108.100= 0016.1.66ba49e7qBfE7W > > Is there a way to figure this out w/o having the cost/lead time just to > get a couple pieces to try? > > PS: Yes, I could use domes on a PCB, but then I have to make keycaps, > which is another effort in itself, and this is just a one-off for myself. > > Cheers, > -Neil. > > -- > http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .