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Sender: "piclist-bounces@mit.edu" Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2020 20:28:03 -0700 Subject: Re: [PIC]: MPLAB XC C Compiler License Change Thread-Topic: [PIC]: MPLAB XC C Compiler License Change Thread-Index: AdZkkKo9pMVo2fzFQmOtHf3lVsXo0Q== Message-ID: <5F1F9B43.8040300@narwani.org> References: <5F1F5405.1988.5211C4F@brent.eds.co.nz> <480ca188-048d-117b-d880-bf828e97976d@audiovisualdevices.com.au> List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , In-Reply-To: Reply-To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. 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That was when I was getting into PIC32's. I still do PIC18's with MPLAB 8.x though However, I'm now into ARM. Mostly STM32-flavoured because they offer=20 significant package/feature choices, and pricing is good. Some dev options: - First Keil and IAR offer their ARM tools free for Cortex-M0/M0+=20 devices, and for limited code side (IIRC 32K). - However, a couple years ago, ST purchased Atollic TrueStudio and=20 offered it for free for any of their processors, and they've now=20 revised/morphed that into STM32CubeIDE. Yes, it's Eclipse-based, but=20 pretty decent if you take a moment to learn to use it and workspaces. - There are surprisingly many other development paths, which I've been=20 capturing in a flowchart. The latest version is here...=20 http://orlandorobotbuilders.com/stuff/STM32_Getting_Started-v0_6.png ST's discussion forum is disappointing, but feel free to join us on=20 STM32 Developers FB group, Cheers, -Neil On 7/27/2020 10:18 PM, Isaac M. Bavaresco wrote: > Em 27/07/2020 23:06, Bob Blick escreveu: >> Might I suggest that, rather than outright revolt, perhaps defection as = an alternate route? AVR and STM32 are both quite capable... >> >> Best regards, Bob > > That's what I'm doing. Most of my new projects are using ARM devices. > > For now I'm still using Cortex-M3 (SAM3) devices, from Atmel/Microchip. > If they change their compiler's license policy for ARM devices, then I > will migrate definitively to STM. > > Right now I'm experimenting with STM's Cortex-M7 devices. My RTOS is not > ready for Cortex-M7, but soon I will have to byte the bullet and do the > conversion. > > STM's STM32H7xxx are fantastic devices. Much more powerful than > Microchip's and still less expensive. > > > Cheers, > > Isaac > > > --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .