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Sender: "piclist-bounces@mit.edu" Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2020 19:06:36 -0700 Subject: Re: [PIC]: MPLAB XC C Compiler License Change Thread-Topic: [PIC]: MPLAB XC C Compiler License Change Thread-Index: AQHWZGXq7lg3WVtaVEGk6OpMHuJg2KkcCL2AgAA1QWU= Message-ID: References: <5F1F5405.1988.5211C4F@brent.eds.co.nz>, <480ca188-048d-117b-d880-bf828e97976d@audiovisualdevices.com.au> List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , In-Reply-To: <480ca188-048d-117b-d880-bf828e97976d@audiovisualdevices.com.au> Reply-To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. 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AVR and STM32 are both quite capable... Best regards, Bob ________________________________________ From: piclist-bounces@mit.edu on behalf of David = Duffy (AVD)=20 Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 3:53 PM To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. Subject: Re: [PIC]: MPLAB XC C Compiler License Change Sounds like a good time to re-investigate unlocking ... On 28/07/2020 8:24 am, Brent Brown wrote: > FYI - Received an email from Microchip today with the above subject line.= Similar > text as that found here, read from License Change Notice: > > https://www.microchip.com/mplab/compilers > > Two key points: > > - All MPLAB XC PRO licenses activated after this date (September 1, 2020)= will > expire after one year unless the HPA is renewed > > - An existing MPLAB XC PRO license will change to this new model as the H= PA is > renewed and applied to it. > > Where HPA =3D High Priority Access. Presently gives (existing owners) an = ungrade to > the latest version plus any other new versions released in the next 12 mo= nths. > > So the compiler will stop working after 12 months unless one pays a yearl= y license > fee. I imagine it stops working in Pro mode, and instead falls back to th= e > free/un-licensed mode with little to no optimization. Where fully optimiz= ed code is > essential, this effectively means it stops working. > > Feels like it might be an un-popular change, especially for those with sm= aller > budgets. I was quite accepting of HPA as it was... ability to upgrade onl= y as and > when required, e.g. starting a new project with a new chip, and ability t= o maintain > older projects at will. > --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .