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Sender: "piclist-bounces@mit.edu" Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2020 16:29:35 -0700 Subject: Re: [EE] Microwave Oven Transformers Thread-Topic: [EE] Microwave Oven Transformers Thread-Index: AdZdXI2zv2lKpysaT96MQo2DYMe8IA== Message-ID: References: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , In-Reply-To: Reply-To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. 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It's interesting to see your progress. On Saturday, July 18, 2020, Bob Blick wrote: > Just a quick update. > > Cutting apart the transformer was easy. Hacksawing along the two welds a > little more than a millimeter deep was enough. > > Making my own flat wire is a bit challenging. I experimented on a 1 meter > length. Stretching 12AWG solid wire to make it straight is hard. I will u= se > a lever or other human invention. Keeping four 8-meter wires parallel whi= le > taping will be challenging. I may tack-solder it at intervals along its > length. Spiral wrapping the Kapton tape seems to be easier than lengthwis= e. > > In the meantime, a friend gave me a transformer he had stripped the > secondary from(in anticipation of making a spot welder) and then abandone= d. > I decided to do some tests just for giggles. It is a 120V 60Hz model, fro= m > an oven rated either 900 or 1000 watts. I connected it to a Variac and a > low-quality AC volt/ammeter on the primary, wound 5 turns of 12AWG for a > secondary, and put an RMS voltmeter and oscilloscope on it. > > Applying up to about 90 volts, primary current was 0.8A and I got > something resembling a sine wave on the secondary, about 4.2V. > > By the time I got to 120V the primary current was 5.8A, there was minor > annoying hum and the output waveform looked rather stressed-out 5.3V. See > attached photo. 2V/division. > > The transformer still had its shunt blocks(search the internet and you > will see what they look like and where they go). Removing them and > retracing my steps gave me similar results at lower voltages but less > voltage compression and 6.8A input current with 120V in. At 117V the > current was 5.8A and output voltage was 5.27V > > Very little heat was produced, it appears that most power was reactive. > > More fun to follow some other day. I need to fix my chainsaw and do other > important chores. > > Bob --=20 Jason White --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .