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Sender: "piclist-bounces@mit.edu" Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2020 12:16:22 -0700 Subject: Re: [EE] Microwave Oven Transformers Thread-Topic: [EE] Microwave Oven Transformers Thread-Index: AdZa3aH6qm46jgVEQRKzb33kxXBeGg== Message-ID: References: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , In-Reply-To: Reply-To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. 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This will make it easier to wind on the core. On Wed, 15 Jul 2020 at 19:29, Bob Blick wrote: > > Hi Graham, > > The choke is only going to be used at low voltage so you're right, I don'= t need to worry too much about insulation. > > I could strip off the insulation and bundle the four strands together bef= ore insulating. It would be rather stiff, but I've got tough fingers. Would= use a lot of polyimide tape, I expect it to be about 30 turns. The widest = I have is 30mm I think. > > Varnishing it is an interesting thought. I've got no experience with varn= ish or shellac, so finding something that would work from my local hardware= store will be an interesting experiment. > > I have some 8AWH battery cable too. But probably not enough. > > Thanks for the ideas! > > Bob > ________________________________________ > From: piclist-bounces@mit.edu on behalf of grah= am foulkes > Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2020 10:57 AM > To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. > Subject: Re: [EE] Microwave Oven Transformers > > HI > 120 amp windings at low voltage, you don't need thick insulation on the > wire. Maybe strip off the house cable insulation and lap wind with thin > tape, electronic polyamide high temperature tape preferrably. I have used > thin cotton tape to insulate scondary coils in a home built welder, still > running 30 years later. > Shellac lacquer is also an alternative, does not soften much with > temperature increase and has good dielectric properties. Avoid PVC > electrical tape, softens too easily and punctures when winding, stretches > and so thins out. > > On Wed, Jul 15, 2020, 7:38 AM Bob Blick wrote: > > > That's pretty nice! I guess I shouldn't give up on finding a source for > > enameled wire. I will start with my current plan and see how much > > inductance I get, since I have lots of house wire. > > Thanks, Bob > > > -- > http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .