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Sender: "piclist-bounces@mit.edu" Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2020 12:41:49 -0700 Subject: Re: [OT] soldering mild steel sheet, galvanic corrosion? Thread-Topic: [OT] soldering mild steel sheet, galvanic corrosion? Thread-Index: AdZE4OmABsQveLU3QVyNzJ+sFMXRsQ== Message-ID: References: <009501d6441b$334bf4f0$99e3ded0$@amulvey.com> List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , In-Reply-To: Reply-To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. 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They have two "melting points" - a solidus point and a liquidus point. The properties of the semi-molten mixture in-between those two points is quite strange and typically some minimum force is needed to cause flow (unlike a liquid), but there is no elastic region (unlike a solid). Sean On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 10:03 AM Bob Blick wrote: > Interestingly, though, solder used for plumbing, sheet metal and other > large mechanical things like stained glass is rarely 60/40 like electroni= c > solder. The difference between it and 50/50 when it comes to workability = is > dramatic. 60/40 solder is harder to use in those applications because the > whole workpiece melts at once, whereas with 50/50 you can work a section > and have it fluid or slightly plastic, right next to an area that is stil= l > solid. There is a certain hysteresis to it that makes it more desirable i= n > that application. > > Best regards, Bob > > ________________________________________ > From: piclist-bounces@mit.edu on behalf of Sean > Breheny > Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 10:03 PM > To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. > Subject: Re: [OT] soldering mild steel sheet, galvanic corrosion? > > Hi Jason, > > On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 5:25 PM Allen Mulvey wrote: > > > Most of his solder was 60% > > lead and 40% tin. I used to borrow it for electronic projects. > > > > Is that a typo? The eutectic point is at 60% tin, 40% lead (typical > electronics solder). > > Sean > > > -- > http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .