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Sender: "piclist-bounces@mit.edu" Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2020 00:01:25 -0700 Subject: Re: [EE] Seeking audio relay advice Thread-Topic: [EE] Seeking audio relay advice Thread-Index: AdYa0LdgpT6WF+gwRC2xm4yVjl0Vbg== Message-ID: References: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , In-Reply-To: Reply-To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. 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Anything else could suffer from lack of sufficient wetting current. On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 8:32 PM Bob Blick wrote: > Backstory: ten years ago I was given a Phase Linear 3000 Series 2 > preamplifier. The friend who gave it to me said it had relay problems. > Recently I acquired a matching power amplifier, and I'd like to get them > both running, because they look awesome together. > > The preamp has no audio switches. All audio switching is done with 13 > relays, DPDT, 24VDC, in DIP package. The relays it has were made by OMRO= N, > with clear plastic lids. Evidently there were a lot of problems, because = I > have a factory service bulletin that says to replace them with Aromat > HB2E-DC24V relays, which are nitrogen filled and hermetically sealed. > Unfortunately after Aromat was absorbed by Panasonic they were discontinu= ed > shortly afterward. And the pinout is not standard. > > Looking at various forums, evidently the Aromat/Panasonic relays were > better, but not perfect either. There are people on eBay that have the > Panasonic branded relays for sale. They appear to be new old stock, about > $15 each. > > So my choice appears to be either put in $200 worth of NOS relays that ma= y > not be perfect, or make a bunch of adapter PC boards to adapt a different > set of relays to fit. > > My question for y'all is this: Is there a 24VDC DPDT DIP relay that > actually works well for audio? If so, it might be worth the trouble to > adapt them to fit. Otherwise, I'll just bite the bullet and take the chan= ce > on some 20-year old new relays that might give me problems in just a few > years(or immediately). > > Not interested in analog switches, I'd like this preamplifier to retain > its original sonic character. > > Thanks in advance! Bob-- > http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .