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HI Can you please cease sending emails to Stephen Forrest as he passed away
in February

regards

andrew forrest

On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 10:24 PM RussellMc <apptechnz@gmail.com> wrote:

> TL/DR:          Image only bit.ly/oggmask02 :-)
>
>
>
>
> Subject line changed.
>
> On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 at 16:37, John Ferrell <jferrell13@triad.rr.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I think it best to not rush into anything unless you have some credible
>
> data to work with. So far various sources seem to be working with
> > ambiguous information.
>
>
> There is a lot of good data - but not enough hard certainty about what it
> tells us, yet.
>
>
> > I have always been led to believe that all virus
> > slip through a cotton mask with ease.
>
>
> Filter needs to be 0.1 micron and THEN have additional useful properties.
> N95 masks stop notionally 95% of 0.1 um objects. %% pass through doesn't
> sound very encouraging :-).
> N99 also available.
>
> I wear an N100 when going out and yesterday added a face shield as well.
> Chances of meeting the but here are so far low. Lower than low suits me
> with my stats.
> [I'm actually healthy enough but I don't look good on paper :-) ].
>
> I use two basic masks with a "gladwrap" plastic layer between - so it is
> imp[ervious. I breathe via various edges and use sanitiser on the mask
> edges. Stops direct face to face droplets and, most important, face
> touching.
> Shield is an experiment.
> I'm thinking of adding a Starwars imperial navy helmet :-).
>
> For those with facebook this page with image of me relates :-).
>
> What you can now wear in public in NZ without a 2nd glance
>
>         Page  bit.ly/oggmask01
>
> Facebook-free image - link will die "after a while":
>
>         Image only bit.ly/oggmask02
>
> Some suggest that those exposed
> > wear double up on gloves. I don't understand how these  critters move
> > among victims. What kind of environment do they require to survive? Wha=
t
> > is their life cycle? How do they reproduce?
> >
> > A few hours on Copper. maybe 4 hours on stainless steel, somewhat longe=
r
> on cardboard. Varies.
>
> Maybe 2 hours as aerosol BUT need to be aerosolised to do this - not an
> aerosol usually.
> Entry by nose/mouth - wipe face with hands.
>
> What is the effect of steroids  (especially predisone  and testosterone).
> >
> > Have not seen claims thaty steroids bad.
> BUT NSAIDs may be - still uncertain - Ibuprofen thought possibly bad in
> SOME cases.
>
> Enough of my ranting, I am following Rules and Policies as I understand
> > them.
> >
> > Don't touch face.
> Disinfect incoming goods or leave say 12 hours.
> Change clothes and shoes at door if serious.
> Wash hands etc incoming.
> Wash often internally just in case [tm]
> Alcohol 60% and above sanitiser works well.
> Soap and water 20 seconds good wash said to work - I have some doubts.
>
> Maintain separation in public
> Sanitise each shopping trolley handles etc.
>
> Excessively paranoid behaviour may be OTT and not necessary.
> Or not !!!
>
>         Russell
>
>
>
> >
> >
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