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CC: Dennis Sanner , ApptechNZ , RossGMail , "ken@elecsyn.com" Sender: "piclist-bounces@mit.edu" Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2020 12:43:55 -0700 Subject: RE: [OT]:: COVID-19 & stuff Thread-Topic: [OT]:: COVID-19 & stuff Thread-Index: AQHWBby23/8jPuN2CUSQEZ9jAuX2J6hf0W+AgAAnjtA= Message-ID: References: <5E7AAEB3.12882.201CA133@brent.eds.co.nz> <2981f858-c60f-243b-a846-4c549892637e@triad.rr.com> List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , In-Reply-To: Reply-To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. 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Bicycle, Bagpipes and tromboon = pieces work well. -----Original Message----- From: piclist-bounces@mit.edu On Behalf Of John G= ardner Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2020 11:21 AM To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. Cc: Dennis Sanner ; ApptechNZ ; R= ossGMail ; ken@elecsyn.com Subject: Re: [OT]:: COVID-19 & stuff All you lack, Russell, is a light saber, w/ The Imperial March playing ominously in the background... "8) But keep doing what you're doing... ... On 3/29/20, RussellMc wrote: > TL/DR: Image only bit.ly/oggmask02 :-) > > > > > Subject line changed. > > On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 at 16:37, John Ferrell wrot= e: > >> I think it best to not rush into anything unless you have some=20 >> credible > > data to work with. So far various sources seem to be working with >> ambiguous information. > > > There is a lot of good data - but not enough hard certainty about what=20 > it tells us, yet. > > >> I have always been led to believe that all virus slip through a=20 >> cotton mask with ease. > > > Filter needs to be 0.1 micron and THEN have additional useful properties. > N95 masks stop notionally 95% of 0.1 um objects. %% pass through=20 > doesn't sound very encouraging :-). > N99 also available. > > I wear an N100 when going out and yesterday added a face shield as well. > Chances of meeting the but here are so far low. Lower than low suits=20 > me with my stats. > [I'm actually healthy enough but I don't look good on paper :-) ]. > > I use two basic masks with a "gladwrap" plastic layer between - so it=20 > is imp[ervious. I breathe via various edges and use sanitiser on the=20 > mask edges. Stops direct face to face droplets and, most important,=20 > face touching. > Shield is an experiment. > I'm thinking of adding a Starwars imperial navy helmet :-). > > For those with facebook this page with image of me relates :-). > > What you can now wear in public in NZ without a 2nd glance > > Page bit.ly/oggmask01 > > Facebook-free image - link will die "after a while": > > Image only bit.ly/oggmask02 > > Some suggest that those exposed >> wear double up on gloves. I don't understand how these critters move=20 >> among victims. What kind of environment do they require to survive?=20 >> What is their life cycle? How do they reproduce? >> >> A few hours on Copper. maybe 4 hours on stainless steel, somewhat=20 >> longer > on cardboard. Varies. > > Maybe 2 hours as aerosol BUT need to be aerosolised to do this - not=20 > an aerosol usually. > Entry by nose/mouth - wipe face with hands. > > What is the effect of steroids (especially predisone and testosterone). >> >> Have not seen claims thaty steroids bad. > BUT NSAIDs may be - still uncertain - Ibuprofen thought possibly bad=20 > in SOME cases. > > Enough of my ranting, I am following Rules and Policies as I=20 > understand >> them. >> >> Don't touch face. > Disinfect incoming goods or leave say 12 hours. > Change clothes and shoes at door if serious. > Wash hands etc incoming. > Wash often internally just in case [tm] Alcohol 60% and above=20 > sanitiser works well. > Soap and water 20 seconds good wash said to work - I have some doubts. > > Maintain separation in public > Sanitise each shopping trolley handles etc. > > Excessively paranoid behaviour may be OTT and not necessary. > Or not !!! > > Russell > > > >> >> > -- > http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive=20 > View/change your membership options at=20 > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > -- http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/chang= e your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclis= t --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .