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Albrecht" To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. Sender: "piclist-bounces@mit.edu" Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2020 02:26:20 -0700 Subject: Re: [OT]: Optimal speaker enclosures. Thread-Topic: [OT]: Optimal speaker enclosures. Thread-Index: AdX+mxSZ/NZkEtcpSd+eJHmAiCNhVQ== Message-ID: References: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , In-Reply-To: Reply-To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. 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I built a pair for myself, powered by an Aliexpress Class D amplifier and they're simply impressive. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DzdkyGDqU7xA Use the stiffest Styropor you can get your hands on On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 at 23:45, Bob Blick wrote: > Hi Justin, > > I'm not an expert on loudspeakers, but I do have some experience with > different kinds of cabinets. You are describing an infinite baffle cabine= t. > Another type of cabinet that has total isolation from front to rear is a > sealed cabinet, also called acoustic suspension. > > There are lots of different types of cabinets. Another popular type is a > bass-reflex cabinet, which is ported. > > Depending on your speaker's characteristics, it will work better or worse > in different types of cabinets. The three most important parameters are > fs(resonant frequency), Qts(the "Q" of the speaker), and Vas(a measure of > compliance). Generally speaking, infinite baffle enclosures need a low-Qt= s > speaker. > > Those three parameters are part of what are generally referred to as > Thiele-Small parameters. Thiele says that if you are making a ported > cabinet, and your speaker has a Qts of .38, you would make the volume of > the cabinet the same as Vas, and tune the port to fs. If your speaker has= a > higher Qts you make the enclosure bigger, if Qts is smaller, make the > cabinet smaller. Thankfully there is software for figuring this out. > > BTW, another popular thing people are doing in vehicles these days is > called "aperiodic membrane". It does require a low to medium Qts speaker > and more power, but it delivers good fidelity. > > Cheerful regards, Bob > > ________________________________________ > From: piclist-bounces@mit.edu on behalf of > Justin Richards > Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2020 2:52 PM > To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. > Subject: [OT]: Optimal speaker enclosures. > > Noticing there is a resident expert I have a question I have often > pondered- > > Would the optimum theoretical enclosure be a speaker mounted in a wall wi= th > infinite dimension such that the front of the speaker can not see the rea= r. > > 1. Optimum as in fidelity and not efficiency. > 2. "See" as in the sound from the front can not travel to the rear. > 3. A wall of infinite dimension looking like an infinit xy plane . > > I have concluded that an infinte xy plane would be optimal after installi= ng > speakers in the rear wall of a ute with little care or funding at the tim= e > and discover I was blown away by the performance. > > Since that time I have tried installs in sedans with more money and care > and always disappointed. > > Cheers Justin > -- > http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > > -- > http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > --=20 Eng. Bruno Landau Albrecht e-mail/G-Talk: brunolalb@gmail.com http://hardwaresw.blogspot.com.br/ --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .