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Sender: "piclist-bounces@mit.edu" Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2020 15:42:32 -0800 Subject: Re: [EE] 74LVC1G332 input clamping current only specified for VI < 0 V Thread-Topic: [EE] 74LVC1G332 input clamping current only specified for VI < 0 V Thread-Index: AdXs//qvHrFerixrTbSGBMMSiLPeiA== Message-ID: References: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , In-Reply-To: Reply-To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. 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When a body diode conducts more than a few microamps (and occasionally before that) it is an indication that a condition has occurred that the spec sheet seeks to prevent. Once current is injected into the substrate in an uncontrolled and unspecified manner, "where it goes, nobody knows" and what the results are range from invariably bad through sometimes bad to "I wonder why this system occasionally does xxx" / "why did it die" / "why did it kill him". YMMV Russell --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .