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Maybe 10%-20% better IIRC. Cheers, -Neil. On 2/19/2020 4:51 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote: > The stuff we get from microchipdirect all comes fedex, often direct > from Thailand where a lot of their goods are packaged (as in put the blac= k > stuff on the outside). There is a shipping charge, but it's comparable = to > everyone else who ships via UPS/Fedex. > > Microchip seems to have largely moved to the direct sales model for a lot > of their customers. I know getting >100 PC pricing from anyone other th= an > microchip direct is a pain in the rear. > > On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 11:26 AM Chuck Olson wrote: > >> Forrest - >> >> Thanks for the Microchip direct tip. >> >> But the thing is, will Microchip mail them ? If not, it's a deal >> breaker for me. >> >> Also, how much do they charge for postage ? Digikey will still send >> stuff with free shipping with pre-paid mail orders and that makes up >> for a 20 cent price difference. Mouser has the super saver shipping >> for something like $3 which is delivered by the USPS. >> >> And finally, did Microchip start selling other junk like sockets and cap= s >> ? :) >> >> There's a reason why distributors still exist beyond price ! >> >> Chuck >> >>> Let me save you $0.20 on singles... And $0.35 on 100's. >>> >>> https://www.microchipdirect.com/product/search/all/16F627a-i%2Fp >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 11:00 AM Chuck Olson wrote: >>> >>>>> I'm looking at the 16F1826 and at least the comparator should be >>>>> identical. There's some nomenclature difference, but comparator 1 >> has >>>> the >>>>> same inputs and outputs. Was there something specific which didn't >>>>> work? >>>> Forrest - >>>> >>>> I don't remember the particulars, this was from maybe 10 years ago. >>>> But I just couldn't setup the comparator the same way, the config >>>> table for the 16f627/8 had a combination that I used but which didn't >>>> exist on the newer part. >>>> >>>>> But... The cost of a 16f18260I/P is $1.43/singles and $1.09/1000PCS= .. >>>>> The PIC16F627A-I/P is $1.63/singles and $1.44/1000PCS. >>>> The price of the 16F627a-i/p-nd is $1.86 for any quantity at Digikey >>>> but you are right, it's hard to justify a part change based on price >>>> alone. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Best Regards, >>>> >>>> Chuck Olson, WB9KZY >>>> Jackson Harbor Press >>>> -- >>>> http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive >>>> View/change your membership options at >>>> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> - Forrest >>> >> >> -- >> Best Regards, >> >> Chuck Olson, WB9KZY >> Jackson Harbor Press >> -- >> http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive >> View/change your membership options at >> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist >> > --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .