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Sender: "piclist-bounces@mit.edu" Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2020 13:51:10 -0800 Subject: Re: [PIC] pricing on oldies and the future of the 18 pin PIC Thread-Topic: [PIC] pricing on oldies and the future of the 18 pin PIC Thread-Index: AdXnb+xl4kc8aTfhSJKtnzqXYtr9KA== Message-ID: References: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , In-Reply-To: Reply-To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. 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There is a shipping charge, but it's comparable to everyone else who ships via UPS/Fedex. Microchip seems to have largely moved to the direct sales model for a lot of their customers. I know getting >100 PC pricing from anyone other than microchip direct is a pain in the rear. On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 11:26 AM Chuck Olson wrote: > Forrest - > > Thanks for the Microchip direct tip. > > But the thing is, will Microchip mail them ? If not, it's a deal > breaker for me. > > Also, how much do they charge for postage ? Digikey will still send > stuff with free shipping with pre-paid mail orders and that makes up > for a 20 cent price difference. Mouser has the super saver shipping > for something like $3 which is delivered by the USPS. > > And finally, did Microchip start selling other junk like sockets and caps > ? :) > > There's a reason why distributors still exist beyond price ! > > Chuck > > > Let me save you $0.20 on singles... And $0.35 on 100's. > > > > https://www.microchipdirect.com/product/search/all/16F627a-i%2Fp > > > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 11:00 AM Chuck Olson wrote: > > > >> > I'm looking at the 16F1826 and at least the comparator should be > >> > identical. There's some nomenclature difference, but comparator 1 > has > >> the > >> > same inputs and outputs. Was there something specific which didn't > >> > work? > >> > >> Forrest - > >> > >> I don't remember the particulars, this was from maybe 10 years ago. > >> But I just couldn't setup the comparator the same way, the config > >> table for the 16f627/8 had a combination that I used but which didn't > >> exist on the newer part. > >> > >> > But... The cost of a 16f18260I/P is $1.43/singles and $1.09/1000PC= S. > >> > The PIC16F627A-I/P is $1.63/singles and $1.44/1000PCS. > >> > >> The price of the 16F627a-i/p-nd is $1.86 for any quantity at Digikey > >> but you are right, it's hard to justify a part change based on price > >> alone. > >> > >> -- > >> Best Regards, > >> > >> Chuck Olson, WB9KZY > >> Jackson Harbor Press > >> -- > >> http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > >> View/change your membership options at > >> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > >> > > > > > > -- > > - Forrest > > > > > -- > Best Regards, > > Chuck Olson, WB9KZY > Jackson Harbor Press > -- > http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > --=20 - Forrest --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .