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But the thing is, will Microchip mail them ? If not, it's a deal breaker for me. Also, how much do they charge for postage ? Digikey will still send stuff with free shipping with pre-paid mail orders and that makes up for a 20 cent price difference. Mouser has the super saver shipping for something like $3 which is delivered by the USPS. And finally, did Microchip start selling other junk like sockets and caps ?= :) There's a reason why distributors still exist beyond price ! Chuck > Let me save you $0.20 on singles... And $0.35 on 100's. > > https://www.microchipdirect.com/product/search/all/16F627a-i%2Fp > > > > On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 11:00 AM Chuck Olson wrote: > >> > I'm looking at the 16F1826 and at least the comparator should be >> > identical. There's some nomenclature difference, but comparator 1 ha= s >> the >> > same inputs and outputs. Was there something specific which didn't >> > work? >> >> Forrest - >> >> I don't remember the particulars, this was from maybe 10 years ago. >> But I just couldn't setup the comparator the same way, the config >> table for the 16f627/8 had a combination that I used but which didn't >> exist on the newer part. >> >> > But... The cost of a 16f18260I/P is $1.43/singles and $1.09/1000PCS. >> > The PIC16F627A-I/P is $1.63/singles and $1.44/1000PCS. >> >> The price of the 16F627a-i/p-nd is $1.86 for any quantity at Digikey >> but you are right, it's hard to justify a part change based on price >> alone. >> >> -- >> Best Regards, >> >> Chuck Olson, WB9KZY >> Jackson Harbor Press >> -- >> http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive >> View/change your membership options at >> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist >> > > > -- > - Forrest > --=20 Best Regards, Chuck Olson, WB9KZY Jackson Harbor Press --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .