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I heard the same thing at Masters this year.=20
I don't blame them at all, as they run less and less of these old parts, th=
eir cost rises.=20
I don't see any mal intent here, just realities of production.=20
The same wafer could have made more of higher profit parts.

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-----Original Message-----
From: piclist-bounces@mit.edu <piclist-bounces@mit.edu> On Behalf Of Neil
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2020 8:03 PM
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Subject: Re: [PIC] pricing on oldies and the future of the 18 pin PIC

A long time ago at Microchip seminar, the Microchip rep doing the presentat=
ion said that they never discontinue parts.  One of the attendees pointed o=
ut that prices were going up on older parts and the Mchip rep agreed/admitt=
ed that yes they do that in order to push people towards the new parts.  An=
d paraphrasing, something to the effect of "... so if you have an older des=
ign that you can't easily migrate, but willing to pay the price..."

Cheers,
-Neil.



On 2/17/2020 8:34 PM, Chuck Olson wrote:
> I ordered some 16F627a 18 pin DIPs recently, noticed that the prices=20
> had increased and that no discount was offered by either Digikey or=20
> Mouser for quantity purchases.
>
> Noticed this was also true for the 12F629 8 pin DIP.
>
> I suspect this is Microchip's way of goading me into using newer parts=20
> but as I recall I did try looking at something newer like the 18 pin
> 16F1827 but I couldn't configure the comparator to work with the=20
> board.
>
> So, if I did have to change the board anyway for a cheaper part,=20
> should I just ditch the 18 pin parts and go to 20 pin parts - are the
> 18 pin'ers the less favored child ?
>

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