Received: from PCH.mit.edu (18.7.21.50) by mail.efplus.com (192.168.0.8) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.485.1; Mon, 17 Feb 2020 17:47:09 -0800 Received: from PCH.MIT.EDU (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by PCH.mit.edu (8.14.7/8.12.8) with ESMTP id 01I1YxZm002823; Mon, 17 Feb 2020 20:38:00 -0500 Received: from outgoing-exchange-1.mit.edu (OUTGOING-EXCHANGE-1.MIT.EDU [18.9.28.15]) by PCH.mit.edu (8.14.7/8.12.8) with ESMTP id 01I1Yv1Y002820 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2020 20:34:58 -0500 Received: from oc11exedge2.exchange.mit.edu (OC11EXEDGE2.EXCHANGE.MIT.EDU [18.9.3.18]) by outgoing-exchange-1.mit.edu (8.14.7/8.12.4) with ESMTP id 01I1ZpFA020103 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2020 20:35:54 -0500 Received: from oc11expo33.exchange.mit.edu (18.9.4.114) by oc11exedge2.exchange.mit.edu (18.9.3.18) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1293.2; Mon, 17 Feb 2020 20:34:50 -0500 Received: from oc11exhyb1.exchange.mit.edu (18.9.1.60) by oc11expo33.exchange.mit.edu (18.9.4.114) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1365.1; Mon, 17 Feb 2020 20:34:55 -0500 Received: from NAM11-CO1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (104.47.56.168) by oc11exhyb1.exchange.mit.edu (18.9.1.60) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1395.4 via Frontend Transport; Mon, 17 Feb 2020 20:34:55 -0500 Received: from BL0PR0102CA0066.prod.exchangelabs.com (2603:10b6:208:25::43) by BY5PR01MB5922.prod.exchangelabs.com (2603:10b6:a03:1cd::18) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id 15.20.2729.23; Tue, 18 Feb 2020 01:34:53 +0000 Received: from CO1NAM03FT064.eop-NAM03.prod.protection.outlook.com (2a01:111:f400:7e48::202) by BL0PR0102CA0066.outlook.office365.com (2603:10b6:208:25::43) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id 15.20.2729.25 via Frontend Transport; Tue, 18 Feb 2020 01:34:53 +0000 Received: from mail-lf1-f43.google.com (209.85.167.43) by CO1NAM03FT064.mail.protection.outlook.com (10.152.81.77) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id 15.20.2729.22 via Frontend Transport; Tue, 18 Feb 2020 01:34:52 +0000 Received: by mail-lf1-f43.google.com with SMTP id y19so13219487lfl.9 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2020 17:34:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 2002:ab3:1293:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Mon, 17 Feb 2020 17:34:49 -0800 (PST) From: Chuck Olson To: "piclist@mit.edu" Sender: "piclist-bounces@mit.edu" Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2020 17:34:49 -0800 Subject: [PIC] pricing on oldies and the future of the 18 pin PIC Thread-Topic: [PIC] pricing on oldies and the future of the 18 pin PIC Thread-Index: AdXl/VVvmqF+ECJOTcewoXLGpk51AA== Message-ID: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Reply-To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. 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Noticed this was also true for the 12F629 8 pin DIP. I suspect this is Microchip's way of goading me into using newer parts but as I recall I did try looking at something newer like the 18 pin 16F1827 but I couldn't configure the comparator to work with the board. So, if I did have to change the board anyway for a cheaper part, should I just ditch the 18 pin parts and go to 20 pin parts - are the 18 pin'ers the less favored child ? --=20 Best Regards, Chuck Olson, WB9KZY Jackson Harbor Press --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .