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Circuit questions. Thread-Topic: [EE] TL431+NPN as rated series regulator? Circuit questions. Thread-Index: AdXh806UbHigw5KIRWap73wlszK0MA== Message-ID: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Reply-To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. 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I presume they meant > 2N2222 not 2N222 (an ancient germanium transistor) My 1974 Archer _Transistor Substitution Guide_ classifies the 2N222 as a PNP low power alloy-junction germanium transistor, which doesn't jibe with the NPN transistors shown in the schematic. By the way, this question was posted by me to news:sci.electronics.design --=20 Don Kuenz KB7RPU There was a young lady named Bright Whose speed was far faster than light; She set out one day In a relative way And returned on the previous night. --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .