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Sender: "piclist-bounces@mit.edu" Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2020 12:13:57 -0800 Subject: RE: [EE] Cable Shield Transfer Impedance, Induced current in wire from shield? Thread-Topic: [EE] Cable Shield Transfer Impedance, Induced current in wire from shield? Thread-Index: AdXd9P69Ivphpre0QuiE5uXp+7FvYA== Message-ID: <20200207131357.06a56fd6300ec2bfca6379d4e10ab8d2.83aa17fdef.wbe@email27.godaddy.com> List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Reply-To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. 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A second less accurate method would be to estimate the length of the wire, the size of the wire, and a possible=20 termination resistance, and then again, use ohms law. And finally, a third method would be to measure it. However, I don't know that that would be practical, or=20 achievable. =20 Regards, Jim > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: [EE] Cable Shield Transfer Impedance, Induced current in wire > from shield? > From: Jason White > Date: Fri, February 07, 2020 1:31 pm > To: "Microcontroller discussion list - Public." >=20 >=20 > Hello everyone, >=20 > Suppose there is a cable bundle containing a number of wires that are > either in a aluminum conduit or wrapped with an aluminum braid. From > what I have read I can expect a shield transfer impedance 0.1 to 0.01 > ohms/meter. If a 1 amp current is induced in the shield due to EMI I > can expect somewhere between 10mv and 100mv to be induced on the wires > within the bundle (when the wires are open circuit). >=20 > Here is my question: how does one estimate the current that will flow > when the wires are not open circuit? (eg. connected to a resistive > load) >=20 > --=20 > Jason White > --=20 > http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .