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Sender: "piclist-bounces@mit.edu" Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2020 14:24:06 -0800 Subject: RE: [EE] Power transmission Thread-Topic: [EE] Power transmission Thread-Index: AQHV2uOCiI2yEAWlHkiMpDCx1EdlLqgLGJcAgABULwCAAAkeAIAAFIcAgAATUIA= Message-ID: References: <5E38A14C.8050802@narwani.org> List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , In-Reply-To: Reply-To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. 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Subject: Re: [EE] Power transmission True. However, this would reduce efficiency since the FET drain would see a= sine wave. An interesting approach I've seen in broadcast transmitters is = class F amplifiers where harmonic filters are added between the transistor = and the output. This is shown, for example, at https://etd.ohiolink.edu/!etd.send_file?accession=3Dwright1422547511&dispos= ition=3Dinline#page=3D15 .. This allows the transistor to have a square wave (drain voltage zero when= current high, drain current zero when drain voltage high) while the output= is a sine wave. Harold > A high q resonant circuit should help > > On Tue, Feb 4, 2020, 12:32 PM Harold Hallikainen=20 > > wrote: > >> I wonder about radio interference with several watts of 250 kHz=20 >> square wave. One nice thing about the Linear Technology designs (at=20 >> Analog >> Devices) is that they comply with EMC requirements. >> >> Harold >> >> > If you want to set up something simple for a test you need a mosfet=20 >> > driver, a coil of 20awg or so wire, about 30 turns in a coil about=20 >> > 3 inches across, a coil with about 200uh , a 200pf cap and a=20 >> > schottky diode. That is >> the >> > sending parts and the receiving part is a coil as close to the=20 >> > first >> 30 >> > turn coil in size and shape. I can post more details if interested . >> This >> > will transfer about 3 watts using a frequency of 250khz over a >> distance >> > of >> > about 1 inch. Of course you also need a frequency generator with >> square >> > wave output. The most important part is the coils, the better the q >> the >> > more efficient it will be. >> > >> > >> > On Mon, Feb 3, 2020, 5:44 PM Neil wrote: >> > >> >> I'm tinkering with power transmission for getting power from=20 >> >> behind a wall panel to in front. For now I'm just experimenting=20 >> >> with the >> idea, >> >> but I can't find much info on the relationship between coil=20 >> >> diameter, wire diameter, number of turns, frequency, and distance. >> >> Anyone here know anything about this? >> >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> -Neil. >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive=20 >> >> View/change your membership options at=20 >> >> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist >> >> >> > -- >> > http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive=20 >> > View/change your membership options at=20 >> > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist >> > >> >> >> -- >> FCC Rules Updated Daily at http://www.hallikainen.com Not sent from=20 >> an iPhone. >> -- >> http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive=20 >> View/change your membership options at=20 >> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist >> > -- > http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive=20 > View/change your membership options at=20 > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > -- FCC Rules Updated Daily at http://www.hallikainen.com Not sent from an iPho= ne. -- http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/chang= e your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclis= t --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .