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Sender: "piclist-bounces@mit.edu" Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2020 21:47:12 -0800 Subject: Re: [EE] H-Bridge supply voltage spike only in "reverse" (not forward) Thread-Topic: [EE] H-Bridge supply voltage spike only in "reverse" (not forward) Thread-Index: AdXTRduGto0HRuJhRu+Bz5T+OKqz3g== Message-ID: References: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , In-Reply-To: Reply-To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. 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The lower > two fets are supposed to be conducting during the off period. > > Both conducting =3D braking. Is it correct to assume that the lower two fets being on should prevent > dumping into the supply rail? > It's an excellent assumption. Reality suggests that it's not happening for some reason, if that's when you get 'pump up' Also of note is the ground Of the waveforms is the bottom side of the bridge shunt resistor. If braking / recirculating current flows in the shunt it will affect the reading BUT the magnitude is presumably small. Russell --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .