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Sender: "piclist-bounces@mit.edu" Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2020 11:37:04 -0800 Subject: Re: [EE] Measurement noise, signal superimposed on H-Bridge operation. Thread-Topic: [EE] Measurement noise, signal superimposed on H-Bridge operation. Thread-Index: AdXNb7C/iruEGAXNQ+KKEuorzEz8Jw== Message-ID: References: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , In-Reply-To: Reply-To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. 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On Fri, Jan 17, 2020, 1:38 PM Jason White As a follow up: I have attached a screen capture showing the waveform > of the noise. > > The signal presents itself as 1 cycle of a sine wave at 12.5MHz > followed by 12 cycles of a sine wave at 62.5MHz on a 100MHZ scope > using a 25MHz differential probe. Less than 400ns in duration from > start to finish. > > Just writing this out made me think: while I would like to eliminate > the radiation from my circuit - I may or may not be able to. Perhaps I > can filter it out of my measurements? > > -- > Jason White > -- > http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .