There was some mention of a Pick n Place project on this list. A friend of mine is currently funding his very nice little version and I strongly recommend it. Gino is one smart guy with a couple of funded projects under his belt and some good designs out in the world. Can't beat the price, and the price is possible because of the simplicity. He has really broken it down to the bare minimum required to get work done. https://www.crowdsupply.com/citrus-cnc/simplepnp P.S. How the heck is this email list still alive? Should have died out long long ago. But with only a few posts on odd days, and no advertisement, or new signups, I guess it's not long for the world. --- James Newton MassMind.org 1-970-462-7764 --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .