Yeah, I don't expect complete anti-static protection... I've toasted a=20 few things in the past with the only possibly explanation being ESD and=20 just looking for some reduction to improve my odds. These are usually=20 simple boards and things I'm coding at my desk, or things I'm demoing to=20 someone. Anything mission-critical does get handled better, or will be=20 worked on at a proper workstation with anti-static mats, etc. Cheers, -Neil. On 12/11/2019 2:46 PM, RussellMc wrote: > No vast experience with carpet mitigation, but I've been lead to believe > over decades that > > - You can greatly reduce carpet ESD levels but are unlikely to get them > down to the level where no other protection is needed. > > - Anti-static sprays and surface treatments for carpet can remove the > shocks that people feel but as above, are not reliable as a sole protecti= on > for electronics. > > - ESD hazards are both real AND overstated by protection supplies. How yo= u > determine where the line is is 'the trick'. > > It may be that copper wire grids at enough more protection - but the > general argument has been that bulk grounding tends to work well enough > where the surface proper is not an ESD generator. > > Body capacitance certainly affects discharge energy levels - connecting > multiple bodies increases the felt shock markedly. A shuffling line of > zombies, with the lead zombie (read engineering department staff member) > pointing a finger at oncoming victims, produced fearsome results. The > victim and lead zombie were about equally impacted but all participants > felt a shock cross person to person gripped hands at discharge time. Fili= ng > cabinets do a nice job as (painful) person discharge points. > > _____________________ > > Many decades ago we were losing a significant percentage of eproms in a > development environment - using the then standard UV erasable ones. Bett= er > attention to electrostatic handling after UV exposure reduced failures to > about zero. > I've never seen another so clear cut example. > > Butyl rubber sheet (carbon loaded) on development desks seems to work ver= y > well. > These may mar the cosmesis if used on carpet :-). > > > Russell > > > On Thu, 12 Dec 2019 at 08:26, Neil wrote: > >> I'm remodeling an office and would like to make the ground (carpet) >> anti-static if possible. I'm using nylon carpet, not anything >> ESD-specific, but I understand that if I place a grid of copper strips >> (grounded) first and use conductive adhesive, it would make a noticeable >> difference, even for non-ESD carpet The carpet manufacturer (Interface) >> says that there is a bit of ESD "protection" in that carpet anyway. >> >> I don't need this to meet any spec or be certified, etc... just looking >> to help protect all my open PCB's from possible damage while I'm here. >> >> Any of you know if this is worth the effort/cost? Or any other things I >> can do to add a bit of ESD protection. >> >> Cheers, >> -Neil. >> >> --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .