Pulsed IR was used (still is probably) for beam break sensors in the alarm = industry outdoors.=20 The only trick is getting the lens large enough so bugs and birds don't tri= p it, but small enough that people do. With crystal controlled modulation frequency, a detector like what's used i= n a pseudo-doppler will give you a lot of SNR boost. -- David VanHorn Lead Hardware Engineer Backcountry Access, Inc. 2820 Wilderness Pl, Unit H Boulder, CO =A080301 USA phone:=A0303-417-1345 =A0x110 email:=A0david.vanhorn@backcountryaccess.com=A0 --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .