Hi Bob, On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 1:24 AM Bob Blick wrote: > > If it's a fake PIC, it might not work with any of the Microchip program/d= ebug tools anyway. > > Bob There is one more thought. A lot of vendors do sell chips by the wafer, without the packaging in large volumes. I don't know whether Microchip does that, though. Maybe someone has better insight ? Regards, Manu --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .