I don't know what this has to do with solar power but it is kind of interesting to see how electrical energy is delivered in various parts of the world. I wish it was a standard 220V worldwide but real life is never that simple. Allen -----Original Message----- From: piclist-bounces@mit.edu [mailto:piclist-bounces@mit.edu] On Behalf Of RussellMc Sent: Friday, March 22, 2019 8:09 AM To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. Cc: Reid, John (Oji Fibre Solutions); ApptechNZ; ken@elecsyn.com Subject: Re: [OT] Solar Power On Fri, 22 Mar 2019 at 23:10, James Cameron wrote: > On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 08:45:27PM +1300, RussellMc wrote: > > [...] > > http://www.inference.org.uk/sustainable/book/tex/sewtha.pdf > > A side issue. > > On the 63rd page, marked page 50, it is said that "In countries where > the voltage is 110 volts, it takes twice as long to make a pot of > tea." > > In UK, it is said that a 230V outlet permits up to 13A. So the > limit is 2.990kW. > > In Australia, a 240V outlet permits up to 10A. So the limit is 2.4kW. > > What does the US have as a conventional pluggable cable limit? > Wikipedia suggests 115V and 15A, or 1.725 kW for NEMA 1-15 or 5-15. > > So that is 58% of the UK tea power delivery. > > Or 1.73 times as long? > > In the US real women probably use an outlet with access to both side of the 180 degree separated "phases" and make tea 13.8% faster. Whereas NZ and UK and others have 3 phases (usually one or sometimes two phases per home) of (choose one) 220/230/240 VAC at 120 electrical degrees to each other, the standard US (choose one) 110/120 V 'phases are derived by centre tapping a 220 / 240V winding, so that each phase is at 180 degrees to the other - so a phase to phase connection sums the voltages to give 220 / 240 Volt. *Water heats at about 850* litre-degrees_C per kWh. * *<- store this useful figure in your brain. (* Actually 853 at 0 C and 100 C and 861 at 40 C, but, that's water for you.)* So an eg 2.4 kW element heats at 2.4 x 850 =3D 2040 litre.degrees per hour. minutes x Watts ~=3D litres x degrees_C x 70 * or minutes ~=3D litres x degrees_C x 70/ Watts. <- a keeper* eg 2 litres of water heated from 20C to 100C using 2.4 kW. t =3D 2 x (100-20) x 70 / 2400 =3D 4 minutes 40 seconds. _________________________________ I have two phases live in my hone - there long ago were three when a prior owner ran a two shift plastic moulding and ??? business in the back yard. The 'main' portion of the house runs on one phase and the rear portion (this office, downstairs workshop, some other) runs on the other. I have 230 VAC nominal phase-neutral in each case and 400 VAC phase-phase should I ever choose to use it - I never have. During the occasional power outage it is far more common to only lose the "front of house" phase and occasionally both together. Never, so far, afair (in 30 years) the rear phase only. If a single phase outage occurs of-an-evening I run an extension cord from the rear of house and operate TV, regrigerators and misc lighting and laptops as requisite thereon. This PC is already on the "rear" phase. What has this got to do with solar power ? :-) Russell --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .