Windows 11 fixes it. I avoid all even-numbered versions of Windows :) ________________________________________ From: piclist-bounces@mit.edu on behalf of Russel= lMc Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2019 1:49 AM To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. Cc: ken@elecsyn.com; Jeff Finger; Chris Rauch; RossGMail; ApptechNZ; Iain Subject: [OT]:: WIN10 LAN access - suggestions sought. Windows "home groups" were removed from WIN10 in late 2018 - With Cloud / internet access not being an acceptable part of any solution, - using the latest versions of WIN10 Pro & Home Shortest: How do I access hard drives "on" other PCs on a home LAN with minimal restrictions and effort. Within LAN security is not an issue. Short: How do I easily, foolproofly (and as a bonus with minimal enable/grant/assert/set/ rights/permissions/passwords/... ) emulate the prior abilities of Windows home groups. to allow disk drive access as desired between PCs running: WIN10 Pro, WIN10 Home, (bonus: WIN7, ...) Longer: I've not been using PC-PC LAN facilities for some while. I had previously done this using 'home groups' with complete successs [tm]. I decided it was time to re-establish LAN functionality between a few PCs. And found that Microsoft have removed the homegroup feature in late 2018, that ALL the fixes workarounds or alternatives acceptable to me & suggested by Microsoft using the O/S's own facilities do not work (for me so far after excessive poring, trying and hair tearing) . Microsoft suggest that "*That many people nowadays Like Marmalade Instead *" in the form of "One Drive" or other such modern cloudy solution. I have ~=3D 30TB of storage in external & USB connected drives on one PC. Storing that 'IN' 'The Cloud' or using it as a means of transfer is stupid as well as unacceptable. Other PCs (2 desktops) various laptops usually have one HDD and maybe USB connected flash drives. "All I want" [tm] is what I always* had, namely To be able to access hard drives on other PCs on an 'ethernet' LAN more or less as if they were physically connected to the PC I am using**. Needing to 'share' or set permissions on a file by file basis is unacceptable. Needing to use dedicated "shared" folders is pathetically low capability. Needing to set permissions or access at a folder level is perhaps grudgingly acceptable. Being able to access a whole HDD for read-only or all-access is what I want= .. Just like I always could :-) Russell *For values of 'always' > =3D DOS 3.1 (afair) or WFW ** "The PC I am using" and "physically connected to the PC" can get a bit ephemeral - I've used 'Team Viewer' from behind the Great Firewall of China to operate a PC in NZ withb the far end laptop essentially being a terminal on the NZ PC -and from there was then able to connect across the home LAN (using home group functionality) to hard drives on other PCs on the home lAN. http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/rmhttp/schools/teachers/offbyheart/the_kings_bre= akfast_milne.pdf --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .