BE CAREFUL Some rust stain removers are diluted hydrofluoric acid. https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/ershdb/emergencyresponsecard_29750030.html I forget the brand but I have some at home. VERY nasty warning label. --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .